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Post subject: Chaos lists  Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:20 am |
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Will keep mine, but will probably get some new ones too, because I think they will look better, and I need some updated painting on the SHs
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:33 am |
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 2:10 pm |
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Hi!
Not a problem as I see it. Size discrepancies have been a staple of the epic line since as far back as I can remember.
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iblisdrax
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:17 pm |
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Yeah all my stuff is different sizes. It is part of the flavor of the game, the fact that some of the equipment is really old, and that the Imperium is like the Soviets in the respect that they never throw anything away.
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Legion 4
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 7:32 pm |
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As most of us have said before, the size thing won't be a problem.
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Chris
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 7:36 pm |
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Well as I currently have no Superheavy tanks, I was going to go FW all the way! But with JJ wanting to make them bigger, then maybe I will get some of his as well!
I remember him saying something about trying to stop scale slippage, so bigger models is the opposite of this, and wasn't going to re-do the Thunderhawk. I wish he would make up his mind!
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 8:08 pm |
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..Hmm. I think I'll just be going for FW tanks for the foreseeable future due only to price really- they are only ?6 apiece for a superheavy now, compared to ?7 for GW's metals most recently....
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 2:38 am |
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I have 10 of the E40k metal IG SHT's, don't think I need anymore. I don't think the scale difference is a problem, people around here use stuff from SM to the latest FW models.
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Legion 4
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:16 am |
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Agreed Marko, I have not seen anyone dump their G/W for F/W or vise versa ! Generally speaking F/W and G/W tanks are compatible on the board. Look at the size differences in the French, German, British and Russian AFVs of 1940, the size range is amazing ... 
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 4:25 pm |
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With GW tanks, you could say that they are built from the same STC, but due to good/poor local materials, some Forgeworld find it nescesary to increase/decrease the size of the SH tanks.
Just a bit of fluff from me!
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:16 pm |
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During WWII, Soviet T-34/76 tanks, produced in different factories, had slightly different turrets, in some cases ... it happened !
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:41 pm |
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As long as players use the counts as rule sensibly, I can see many OOP models still beign used. I saw a guy the other week in my GW store using some stormblades as shadowswords and using a Leviathan to transport his regimental command!
As L4 points out, throughout history many tanks have had variation to their basic designs, with different turrets etc., and this is happening now with Epic:A, look at the Armageddon Basilisk next to the FW Basilisk. Same tank, different look....
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:59 pm |
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Yes, the "count as rules" make sense and should be obvious. In the E-A downloads Jervis did a pretty good job in that respect and in some cases even gave stats for many the older models. However, as you mentioned Chris, the Leviathan was a Regt. Command vehicle in SM1 & 2, IIRC. So as long as you all agree on what is equal to what (within reason) there should not be a problem. And again, history is a good "guiding light" even with Epic. If you doubt that, read Jervis's "Epic Evolution" piece and note how many times he makes historical references in the E-A downloads. Or read comic books and play 40K !!! 
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:24 am |
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Can someone clear up some confusion here? In the Chaos list, there are two sections, marines and cultists. Are these two separate armies, or can I use formations from each section? I guess I am confused because in Epic40k there was no question about it, everything was in one section.
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Markconz
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Post subject: Chaos lists Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:27 am |
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Similar to what happened with the Imperial Guard and Marine armies for EA, the chaos are now split into two lists, Cultists and Marine. I read something about why this was so on the official forums a day or two ago - balance and fluff reasons.
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