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If this is is going to touted as a core chaos list, it needs to use the core chaos summoning rules and match up in as many other ways as possible - EG have free Chaos warlord, common demon stats, etc. Changing stuff like that requires block approval, not a 3 post discussion in this thread, IMO. I know the warlord issue has come up before, but the decision on changing the chaos lists has always been 'give it a year to settle in' which is a valid one to me.
Personally I agree with a change to the warlord, a removal of the 0-1 and 0-2 restrictions (with recosting if needbe) and a shifting of the Assault Company to the war engines section. Id also like the feral to lose MW off of its gun and drop 25 in cost. It would not be significantly better than a warhound in that case. But these are all changes that need to be discussed once the list has settled in. Rejigging everything now in a new list seems madness.
I'm still not certain that we want a list that copies 40k somuch in any event. Its pretty clear to me 'Chaos Warhounds' and 'Chaos Baneblades' that are so similar to the imperial variants are marketing decisions (sell as many variants of the handful of kits possible to put out) and a step back background wise, making chaos marines 'loyalists with skullz on' again. Epic can open its eyes wider if needbe, and in fact did with the introduction of wierd and wonderful demon engines for the Black Legion list, as well as formations that really make the army list into a hammer. Part of the pull of epic is the feel the lists generate, and the fact they make you think. The focus is a good thing. If lists copy 40k they risk become more bland (I mean look at the demons!).
Regarding the baneblade I get particularly confused when I consider these are meant to be recently turned marines, I mean why do they suddenly ditch mobility and aggression and decide to use the weakling imperial guards signiature tank - and not the one they could actually benefit from (the shadowsword). And where are their titans coming from? Recent traitors as well? In which case I can understand why they would have something recognisable specifically as a warhound.
That said, there are models for Baneblades and Warhounds available which could be chaosed up with a little work, so I can see the logic on that score. The BL list does have stuff 'missing'. But then the Pussblade and brass scorpion will need some serious converstion work anyway.
I realise that this sounds very negative but I am actually in support of this idea when pitched as "Renegades" - there is definitely room for it. My personal taste is to the black legion for fluff reasons but I would definitely consider fielding a list like this as an alternative (even if just for the excuse to field a chaos thunderhawk), particularly if I am playing fluff dependent scenarios. The black legion cant be everywhere! The above are mainly caveats
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