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What should we test the LR Prometheus with?
Supreme Commander 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Commander 16%  16%  [ 3 ]
Leader 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Comm link and Commander (ignore the 5cm range for Commander ability) 32%  32%  [ 6 ]
Comm link (ignore the 5cm range for Commander ability) 16%  16%  [ 3 ]
Initiative re-roll for that formation 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Something else 16%  16%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 19

What should we test the LR Prometheus with?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:52 am 
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If you remove the 5cm limit on commander, then the attacking formations would still need to make coherency after the move. So that kind of cheese would be prevented automatically. But I still don't like the idea that LR formation goes near a target and then asks the bikes behind farther taking cover to come to assault.

Why not? Isn't that exactly what they should do? Somewhat frantically I imagine.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:46 pm 
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I didn't give it commander so that there is no conflict with giving character to that same unit. So that supreme commander would be possible to be bought to it.



I agree with you, I think this would be best.


I'd like to change that 'ingore the 5cm limit' to 'replace the 5cm limit with 15cm'. Or possibly 25cm.

Why?  I don' think there is an appreciable difference between no limit and 25cm limit.  I would prefer that it be kept to no limit and if that is found to be too much we can then tune it down to 25cm.  If we make it a 25cm limit and find that is OK there is going to be little chance that it will be tested at no limit.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:50 pm 
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The Supreme Commander is already a +100pts upgrade. And your stats don?t include Supreme Commander.
But i would say 175pts with your stats in Post Nr 17 is ok. Or a +75pts upgrade for an already existing LandRaider.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:49 am 
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Points wise I think it would depend on list - quite possibly it is worth more in faster lists than slower, and in an air assault list you can argue it shouldn't be there in the first place.

Something else is the rarety aspect - in most chapters it should be 0-1.

Finally how to shoehorn it into the lists? I think the technique for the Salamanaders is fine for them as they have a fair few potentially, but I reckon the best way in a generic list would be to have it as a command option.

As for cost you have to look at how much it is worth with the captain/supreme commander. I reckon with the captain 200 points is a good round figure to start with - but of course this would differ from list to list.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:29 am 
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Hena: how do you mean that? You can give commander ability to any formation on the table even without a character?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:37 am 
Yes in essence your captain or supreme commander added to a prometheus can use there commander ability with any formation on the table, not just the ones within 5cm. So say ou have a speeder formation, a tactical formation and a LR formation with prometheus as the three points of a triangle surrounding the enemy, they could all engage said enemy obeying all other rules (coherency after move etc etc).


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:03 pm 
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Wow, I like the Idea

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One question arises to me:

Have alle three formations to attack the same target? Or cani order the Prometheus formation to attack Target Formation A and another detachment 100cm over there target a second Formation B near it?
So in effect have 2 different but simultaneous assaults?

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