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NightSerpent's First E-A Training Scenario! |
the_fifth_horseman
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Post subject: NightSerpent's First E-A Training Scenario! Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 11:01 am |
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+++I greet you, mortals.+++ +++The Necrontyr arise from their tombs for the sixth time.+++ +++So join us or die on the claws of our Flayed Ones.+++ +++The new Necron army list v 2.0 is aivaible for download from groups.yahoo.com/group/epica/files.+++ +++If you cannot download it from there, e-mail me at the_fifth_horseman@interia.pl to receive it in e-mail.+++ +++Any battle reports, ideas for new rules/ rule changes as well as comments and ideas for new units or changes within the current stats please post here.+++ +++THE VAUL-MOON SHALL BRING FORTH THE DRAGON+++ +++THE MASTER OF DEATH WILL DRINK DEEP FROM ISHA'S EYE+++ +++THAT WHICH LIES OUTSIDE WILL BE DRAWN TO HARVEST+++ +++THE JACKAL-GOD SHALL TURN BROTHER AGAINST BROTHER+++ +++AND THE FIFTH WILL STRIKE FROM DARKNESS ONCE AGAIN+++ +++THE FIVE SHALL TAKE THEIR PLACE THEIR PLACE AMONG THE STARS+++ +++THEIR LEGIONS ASCENDANT, UNSTOPPABLE AS THE NIGHT+++
_________________ The Fifth Horseman. Quality over quantity. Realm of the Horseman ? ? The mirror site.
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Shadow Hunter
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Post subject: NightSerpent's First E-A Training Scenario! Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 12:01 pm |
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Okay I've made myself a member of the group. I'm awaiting confirmation.
My email is monkey_tin@hotmail.com if you can get it to me earlier, ta.
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Legion 4
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Post subject: NightSerpent's First E-A Training Scenario! Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:21 pm |
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By the time G/W-F/W does Epic Necrons, I'll be a member of the Undead ... 
_________________ Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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MaksimSmelchak
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Post subject: NightSerpent's First E-A Training Scenario! Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 10:12 pm |
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5th-Horseman,
Thanks for the notice.
Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak.
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the_fifth_horseman
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Post subject: NightSerpent's First E-A Training Scenario! Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:13 pm |
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Oh, and for a better, simpler WBB rule, please check out on the Playtester's forum in "Fan rules & lists"
_________________ The Fifth Horseman. Quality over quantity. Realm of the Horseman ? ? The mirror site.
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nightserpent
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Post subject: NightSerpent's First E-A Training Scenario! Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:59 pm |
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I tried the first training scenario (objective with 2 formations of 6 units on each side) yesterday. I didn't have any marine models available, so we made do with my Orks. I gather this made it harder (using small formations of Orks, rather than the reliable marines), but we had to make do with what I had. I tried not to think of it as an accurate representation of an Epic game, rather a way to get a sense for the rules.
But a couple of questions came up, and I was hoping you all could help me...
Other than being able to, perhaps, gang up more of your models in base to base, what is the real benefit of charging? ?
I gather if you are a more HTH oriented formation, or you greatly outnumber the opponent, you have better odds... But there appears to be no real bonus to being the assault-er. Am I missing something?
Retaining the initiative: in the above mission, say I go first. I nominate formation A to carry out an action. Then, I decide to retain the initiative and attempt to force formation B to make an action as well. Then, my opponent carries out an action with one of his formations. Back to my turn, can I carry out an action with formation B?
Or, did it already make it's action for the turn when it retained the initiative?
In other words, can retaining the initiative actually grant an extra action for the formation, or is it merely pushing it's action to the head of the line?
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
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MaksimSmelchak
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Post subject: NightSerpent's First E-A Training Scenario! Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 5:27 pm |
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NightSerpent,
Other than being able to, perhaps, gang up more of your models in base to base, what is the real benefit of charging? |
Good question. I'm not sure of the answer. Where's Dafrca when you need him?
I'm pretty sure that charge is the only way to go straight to HtH rather than firefight. I'm not as invested in the rules anymore as I once was. The playtesting forum isn't as enchanting as it once was.
I gather if you are a more HTH oriented formation, or you greatly outnumber the opponent, you have better odds... But there appears to be no real bonus to being the assault-er. Am I missing something? |
That must be wrong. However, the HtH rules are a bit odd. It's possible for both sides to really lose out.
Retaining the initiative: in the above mission, say I go first. I nominate formation A to carry out an action. Then, I decide to retain the initiative and attempt to force formation B to make an action as well. Then, my opponent carries out an action with one of his formations. Back to my turn, can I carry out an action with formation B?
No, if it lost the initiative then it used up its' action. Bummer!
At least, that's how I understood the rule.
Or, did it already make it's action for the turn when it retained the initiative?
It already made it's action.
In other words, can retaining the initiative actually grant an extra action for the formation, or is it merely pushing it's action to the head of the line?
You can try for a double action, but if you already failed an initiative then it's done, period. So, in your words, it's like pushing its' action to the front of the line.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
You're welcome although I'm not sure how much help it was.
Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.
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nightserpent
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Post subject: NightSerpent's First E-A Training Scenario! Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:13 am |
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Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2003 5:34 pm Posts: 88 Location: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
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any reason why my topic titles are being re-named??
Quote That must be wrong. However, the HtH rules are a bit odd. It's possible for both sides to really lose out. |
I don't follow you... what must be wrong?? It makes sense that a more combat oriented formation would be better at an assault than a shooty one.
Speaking of odd results... I did charge a formation, I had more units using the close combat value than he. I caused more causalties... and HE won! I guess we shouldn't rely on the outcomes of an assault unless we grossly outnumber the enemy.
thanks for clearing up the initiative retaining question. It makes more sense your way, but I wanted to make sure!
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MaksimSmelchak
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Post subject: NightSerpent's First E-A Training Scenario! Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:23 am |
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NightSerpent,
Any reason why my topic titles are being renamed? |
I usually rename topics to indicate what they're about to make them clear. It makes it easier for everyone to know what's in the thread.
I'm also the Grammar and Spelling Commisar (GSC). ?
I don't follow you... what must be wrong? |
What I meant is that it would certainly logically seem that the assaulter would get some sort of bonus.
It makes sense that a more combat-oriented formation would be better at an assault than a shooty one. ?
Speaking of odd results... I did charge a formation, I had more units using the close combat value than he. ?I caused more causalties... and HE won! I guess we shouldn't rely on the outcomes of an assault unless we grossly outnumber the enemy.
The CC rules are certainly a bit odd. It's really odd when you deal out the damage, but STILL lose the CC. Weird! ?
Thanks for clearing up the initiative retaining question. It makes more sense your way, but I wanted to make sure!
You're welcome. I may still be wrong. I'm certainly no E-A expert. Now, Dafrca, on the other hand...
Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.