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Ork Army List
nealhunt	Post subject: Ork Army List Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:23 pm
Purestrain Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm Posts: 9617 Location: Nashville, TN, USA	Yeah, That's my problem with those stats. They were reset once, iirc, but there have already been some big changes, so those stats are composites of a bunch of stuff. I think the recent Ork list changes will help their win percentage. Flakwagons are now interchangeable with Gunwagons - same slots in the army list, same transport ability. The only difference is the gun, which loses 15cm range in return for AA6+. Personally, I rarely have Wagons sitting back to fire, so I will play almost exclusively Flakwagons. Aircraft should have a much harder time against Orks now, doubly so since they can field gigantic formations of Fighta-bommas. _________________ Neal
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nealhunt

Post subject: Ork Army List Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:50 pm

Purestrain Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm Posts: 9617 Location: Nashville, TN, USA

>> 1-How is the Avatar and COTYK supposed to be based? ?Is it the Avatar and 1 exarch stand? ?Or are they all together? ?Would this unit not get blown away instantly? One stand with Avatar and a handful of Exarchs. It is a WE with DC 3, 3+ armor, invulnerable save. So, despite damage it always takes 3 BM to suppress and it takes an average of ~7 non-MW hits to kill it or 3.5 MW hits. It's not the toughest unit, but it's fairly durable, free, and very effective in assaults. >> 2-What's the deal with the guardains and platform? ?7 figures plus a platform per stand? ?That would be large.

Um, yeah. I don't care for it, but that's a single squad in 40K (5 guardian minimum, + 2 crew).

>> 3-Why do jet bikes not have an armour save? They are one of the toughest units in an Eldar 40K army (T4 3+save) seems odd they dont have any save at all now.
>> 4- Why are Warp Spiders armour 3+. It?seems odd.

It's based not just on toughness and armor but on how the unit remains combat-effective. Taking out a couple bikes is not that much harder than taking out a couple Warp Spiders, but afterwards, the WS are still a viable squad. The bikes aren't. I do think the bikes should have a 6+ save, though.

>> 5- What happened to the Cobra's ability to shoot through void and power fields? And how did it get its huge range?

Nothing bypasses shields anymore. If you want to hit something and not worry about shield, you have to physically pass through them to CC a titan. Personally, I think this is a good thing. Cobras are quite "Billy-badass" anyway.

>> 6-Does the Phoenix Bomber have 2 Eldar missile launchers? (1 under each wing as per 40K)
>> 7-why are the Pheonix and Vampires the same cost?

The weapons may have been added. I'm not sure. There was a discussion about the relative worth of these units and Jervis clarified/changed some stuff.

>> 8-Where is the Distort cannon for the Phantom?

Same old song from Jervis. Blah, blah, blah, limited miniature range, blah blah blah, Section 8, blah, blah, blah.

I hope that helps.