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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:59 pm 
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I finally got around to playing my first game of Epic Armageddon on Saturday, and loved it immensely.  My IG were fun, but I love the Tau.  So I've been debating on ordering the Tau or just going with Eldar for my 2nd force.  Well I broke down, borrowed a friend's credit card and ordered some Tau from Forgeworld.  I should hopefully get them while I'm off work at Christmas.

So here's what I ordered:

1x Tau Command
2x Crisis Battlesuits
1x Firewarriors
1x Gun Drones
1x Devilfish
1x Broadsides
1x Stealthsuits
2x Hammerheads w/Railguns
1x Hammerheads w/Fusion Blasters
1x Barracudas
1X Tigersharks

And here's what I am looking at for a list with what I have ordered, using the IA3 list:

Battlesuit Cadre
Shas'O
Broadsides
(500)

Battlesuit Cadre
Shas'El
+2 Battlesuits
Stelth Suit Squad
(550)

Firewarrior Cadre
Ethereal
Devilfish
(300)

3x Hammerhead Contingent
2 Railguns
1 Fusion Blaster
(600)

That comes to 1950 points, which is a decent start at 2000 points.  If I drop the Ethereal, I can add in the 2 Barracudas.


What should I add in there next. I was thinking another unit of Firewarriors with some Piranhas & Tetras, and a pack of Skyrays to add 1 to each of my tank squads, and an Orca for my Command HQ.

Any suggestions or helpful hints on the Tau would be much appreciated as I make my way through this section of the forum.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:39 pm 
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HH contingents are 4 models for 250 points.

Hope you just had a typo.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:12 pm 
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Hi Brett, welcome to the forum.

Battlesuit Cadre
Shas'O
Broadsides
(500)

The broadsides will seriously slow the crisis suits down.  Also, with the likely division of crisis and broadsides as infantry and light vehicle the broadsides will be vulnerable to AT fire picking them off.  Better to field broadsides in the contingent if you can.

Battlesuit Cadre
Shas'El
+2 Battlesuits
Stelth Suit Squad
(550)

I really like this formation, its one I field regularly, though I put my Shas'o in it.  If not using a 2 Moray formation this is usually my BTS formation, which is good as a large(ish) formation of tough, fast infantry is hard to destroy.

Firewarrior Cadre
Ethereal
Devilfish
(300)

I always take a FW formation too.  I haven't tried it with the Etheral yet, but I have read reports where it has been effective.

3x Hammerhead Contingent
2 Railguns
1 Fusion Blaster
(600)
As Tactica says its 4 for 250.  Also I assume you know that the alternate weapon is the Ion Cannon (not fusion blaster) in the list.  Having one Ion Cannon in the formation makes for a decent "token" AA presense on the board.
You might want to consider one MAHC (Mobile Armoured Hunter Cadre) of 6 Hammerheads and one Contingent of 4.

I agree that Piranhas and Tetras would make a good expansion.  A couple more cheap activations will be useful.  If you usual/regular opponent uses large WE then you will want to consider the Moray (I believe that the BFG Protector model is being used by some, someone will correct me if thats wrong).

Hope that helps.  Any further questions fire away.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:37 pm 
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I've been using the Imperial Armour 3 list as a guide and it has the Hammerheads at 3 for 200 points, and you can swap out the main gun for any of the alternates.

So what's with the differences in the IA3 Epic list and the 4.1 (or 4.3 here) on the Epic website?   Is one more official than the others?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:24 pm 
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The most likely official list is the one being developed here on the Tau forum (4.3).  I think the IA3 list is based on an older version of this list.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:33 pm 
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I was trying to figure out which was more recent.  It was all really new to me anyways.  It's missing a good chunk of options.  It appears to me they took out all the vehicles they don't have models for and made a few things cheaper to make up for the lack of stuff.  

In addition all the model counts work out for how Forgeworld sells them in a pack, in 3's and such.  

I'll have to give both lists a try and see which one fares better, though I imaine I'll be using the IA3 list for the first little while as what I bought fits into a list better.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:49 pm 
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Quote (Breten @ 06 Dec. 2005 (21:37))
So what's with the differences in the IA3 Epic list and the 4.1 (or 4.3 here) on the Epic website?   Is one more official than the others?

Before the standard round of wild roumours and allegations start flying around again here is the info on how the Forgeworld Taros Epic list compares to the v4 vault list.  

Basically you are right in saying they took out the stuff that they don't make models for (although they did reference them at one point in the text) and matched the units to the pack size.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:30 am 
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Well, I'll have to give it a whirl when my boys arrive, and see which list works better for me.  I do appreciate that they adjusted the list to fit with the load of the packs.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:49 am 
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Hi I also ordered some Tau from Forgeworld yesterday. Have played EA a few times with a vast Ork Army and fancy something totally different as a second army so have ordered:

IA3 as an essential start for background
1 FW pack
2 Devilfish pack
1 HH with RG pack
1 HH with IC pack
1 Gun drones pack (to bulk out FW stands!)
2 Recon packs

That should give me just under 1000pt start with FW to hold objectives (with devilfish transport). HH's to give some basic long range support and AT cover. Tetra's and Piranha's to zip around causing general havoc and using the markerlight skill to help with GM's.
I doubt I'll play a battle with this tiny force but intend to build on it next month (after pay day...) with a charcter pack, some battlesuits and lots more tanks which I have yet to decide on!

Any advice will be warmly welcome.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:52 pm 
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As I go through the lists, and with what  have coming, it looks like I can put together 3000 points.  Assuming I base the Crisis Battlesuits 1 to a base.  Which I think I may do.  That'll let me run 3 Battlesuit squads with +2 suits to each Formation.  18 Battlesuits in all.  And if I base each on a penny, they shouldn't look to bad.  Each one will likely have a little mini diorama.

I know they should be 2 to  base, but I really don't think my small group will mind or care.  We all have 1 Sentinel per base, so I'll be doing the same with risis Suits.  Plus it'll be easier on my wallet.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:41 pm 
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Quote (Breten @ 07 Dec. 2005 (16:52))
As I go through the lists, and with what ?have coming, it looks like I can put together 3000 points. ?Assuming I base the Crisis Battlesuits 1 to a base. ?Which I think I may do. ?That'll let me run 3 Battlesuit squads with +2 suits to each Formation. ?18 Battlesuits in all. ?And if I base each on a penny, they shouldn't look to bad. ?Each one will likely have a little mini diorama.

I know they should be 2 to ?base, but I really don't think my small group will mind or care. ?We all have 1 Sentinel per base, so I'll be doing the same with risis Suits. ?Plus it'll be easier on my wallet.

IIRC,Sentinels are LV?s ,so basing them alone is ok. Crisis are Infantry and should be based 2 to 3 a stand. Similar goes to Broadsides, although they have LV Status they are still based 2 to 3 a Stand. But if your Group don?t care, speaking with L4?s words : Do what work?s for you. ( And saves your Money as well.)

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:17 pm 
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Agree with steele.

Also, drones may be mounted on the stands - and looks appropriate considering the infantry status and considering that's what FW ships.

You gota do what works for your wallet first and foremost though.

PS - you may find that you don't need 2 or 3 units of crisis. I personally find that in 40K, they are the main fighting force, but in E:A, they are a tertiary concern to me. Crisis are a means for the shas'o - and that's really it in my games. I occasionally take a formation of them - but without bolstering their ranks - the formation of 4 (without the marine's ATSKNF) is just too small to be an effective fighting force in E:A IMHO.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:22 pm 
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That's what I had gathered about them from reading through the Tau section here.  I'd like to field a minimum of two fully decked out squads (6 stands), but with 2 packs based two to a stand, it only gives you one of six and one of 4 (including the command pack.  Using one each per base (mixed in with some drones and bits) gives me 18, three full squads, which should be the most I'll ever need to field.

Now to wait until they get here.  Until then I'll be assembling lists and variations.  And working on all the other stuff I have.  I just added a blister of Hydras to my IG today.  Another Warhound and I'll be at 5000 points, and I sill don' have a Warlord or Revenant.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:57 pm 
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My Tau have arrived.  From Great Britain to Canada in less than 3 days since ordered it.  Now to assemble those bad boys.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:13 pm 
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Wow, that's increadible!

3 days, over seas, and holiday season... Hmph... one wonders if there's a reserve somewhere locally. Heh, 4 days is usually express when shipped overseas...

Well, great - get too it!

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