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Tas	Post subject: Suggested Reading Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:27 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:01 am Posts: 7823 Location: Sydney, NSW	Quote (dafrca @ 22 2005 June,11:20) Quote (Legion 4 @ 20 2005 June,20:41) Steuben and the White Mice ... be afraid ... be very afraid ... ?He's one my of favorite Slammers ! ?Even if he is a "little light on his feet" ! Light on his feet or not, the man shoots kids without a thought. ? Those kinds of people scare me. And you know there are real people like that. ? dafrca I agree Thats why we still have people who volunteer to serve in the Military _________________ Tas My General blog: http://tasmancave.blogspot.com/ My VSF Blog: http://pauljamesog.blogspot.com/ My ECW Blog: http://declaresir.blogspot.com/
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Legion 4	Post subject: Suggested Reading Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:56 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm Posts: 36989 Location: Ohio - USA	Yep !  Steuben and his hallmark engraved pistol was/is/will be a terror !   And yes, that's why certain types "adapt" better in the military ... especially the Infantry ...  He is really scary in the "Paying the Piper" and "The Sharp End" ... I could never be that "efficient" or ruthless and I'm not "light on my feet", either ! _________________ Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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dafrca	Post subject: Suggested Reading Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:20 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 6:02 pm Posts: 10956 Location: Burbank, CA, USA	Quote (Tas @ 21 2005 June,19:27) Quote (dafrca @ 22 2005 June,11:20) Quote (Legion 4 @ 20 2005 June,20:41) Steuben and the White Mice ... be afraid ... be very afraid ... ?He's one my of favorite Slammers ! ?Even if he is a "little light on his feet" ! Light on his feet or not, the man shoots kids without a thought. ? Those kinds of people scare me. And you know there are real people like that. ? dafrca I agree Thats why we still have people who volunteer to serve in the Military Sad to say though, some are in Law Enforcement and the Military. Psycos with Guns. I see it here in the US. Look at how we say one thing and do another when it comes to Human Rights etc. ? The world is a crule and cold place. dafrca _________________ "Every Man is a But Spark in the Darkness"               - Cities of Death, page 59 Come fight me, if you dare...... http://dd-janks.mybrute.com
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stormseer	Post subject: Suggested Reading Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:56 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 9:52 pm Posts: 4598 Location: Suffolk, UK.	Started Heinlein's Starship Troopers (which I'm sure all of you will have read!). Great beginning! _________________ www.darkrealmminiatures.com
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Tas	Post subject: Suggested Reading Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:17 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:01 am Posts: 7823 Location: Sydney, NSW	Quote (dafrca @ 23 2005 June,04:20) The world is a crule and cold place. You have valid points there, but I disagree mate: The world isnt cruel, it just doesnt give a damn... _________________ Tas My General blog: http://tasmancave.blogspot.com/ My VSF Blog: http://pauljamesog.blogspot.com/ My ECW Blog: http://declaresir.blogspot.com/
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dafrca	Post subject: Suggested Reading Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:51 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 6:02 pm Posts: 10956 Location: Burbank, CA, USA	Quote (Tas @ 23 2005 June,17:17) Quote (dafrca @ 23 2005 June,04:20) The world is a crule and cold place. You have valid points there, but I disagree mate: The world isnt cruel, it just doesnt give a damn... OK Edit: Some people in the world can make it feel cruel and cold. How is that?   I know there are people who care and who try and build up the world. But sad to say, it is easier to tear down the build. dafrca _________________ "Every Man is a But Spark in the Darkness"               - Cities of Death, page 59 Come fight me, if you dare...... http://dd-janks.mybrute.com
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Tas	Post subject: Suggested Reading Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:10 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:01 am Posts: 7823 Location: Sydney, NSW	Ok - we'll agree to agree then! Remember: "All that is required for Evil to Triumph is for Good Men to do Nothing" _________________ Tas My General blog: http://tasmancave.blogspot.com/ My VSF Blog: http://pauljamesog.blogspot.com/ My ECW Blog: http://declaresir.blogspot.com/
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Tas	Post subject: Suggested Reading Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:47 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:01 am Posts: 7823 Location: Sydney, NSW	OK, bringing this thread back OT after I helped hijack it.... Have a look at this site: http://military-sf.com/books.htm Some very good books listed here, several I've read but failed to mention. _________________ Tas My General blog: http://tasmancave.blogspot.com/ My VSF Blog: http://pauljamesog.blogspot.com/ My ECW Blog: http://declaresir.blogspot.com/
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Legion 4	Post subject: Suggested Reading Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:34 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm Posts: 36989 Location: Ohio - USA	I liked Heinlein's Starship Troopers ! Read it while I was going thru Infantry Officer Advanced Training.  Got it in the book store right there at Fort Benning, Ga.  But I like Drake's Slammers better ... grittier, off the top of my head.  Interesting that Heinlein served as a USN Officer in WWII, while Drake was an enlisted trooper (IIRC) in an Armored Cav Rgt (the 11th) in Vietnam ...  Similar yet different points of view ... _________________ Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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dafrca	Post subject: Suggested Reading Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:39 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 6:02 pm Posts: 10956 Location: Burbank, CA, USA	Quote (Tas @ 23 2005 June,18:47) OK, bringing this thread back OT after I helped hijack it.... Have a look at this site: http://military-sf.com/books.htm Some very good books listed here, several I've read but failed to mention. Nice site. Two books he listed I have not read and would be interested in knowing if anyone here has... Semper Mars by Ian Douglas (Published by Avon SF) Enders Game by Orson Scott Card (Published by Tor SF) dafrca _________________ "Every Man is a But Spark in the Darkness"               - Cities of Death, page 59 Come fight me, if you dare...... http://dd-janks.mybrute.com
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dafrca	Post subject: Suggested Reading Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:49 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 6:02 pm Posts: 10956 Location: Burbank, CA, USA	Quote (Tas @ 23 2005 June,18:47) OK, bringing this thread back OT after I helped hijack it.... Have a look at this site: http://military-sf.com/books.htm Also take the time to go read some of his essays. I do not agree with him always, but many were good reads. dafrca _________________ "Every Man is a But Spark in the Darkness"               - Cities of Death, page 59 Come fight me, if you dare...... http://dd-janks.mybrute.com
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Tas

Post subject: Suggested Reading Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:35 am

Brood Brother Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:01 am Posts: 7823 Location: Sydney, NSW

Yep - both of them Semper Mars by Ian Douglas (Published by Avon SF) The start of a trilogy of near-future "Hard" military Sci-Fi where humanity finds itself discovering alien artifacts in the solar system. ?Its OK, but not much more than a story about Marines on Mars. ?The other to set in the series (Lunar marine and Europa....something?) develop the story a lot more and while I enjoyed them, it was hardly a cerebral challenge Ian Douglas is a pseudonym for William K Keith BTW Enders Game by Orson Scott Card (Published by Tor SF)

Quite a thought-provoking book, all about training small children as strategists to try and finish an interstellar war between Humanity and an alien foe. ?There are some good twists to it, though I thought the idea of training 4-7 yr olds to 'zap' eachother with lightguns was more than a bit amoral and the intellects at that age were far advanced (more like young teenagers) though that was never fully explained either. ?Worth reading