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Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
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Author:  yme-loc [ Mon May 16, 2016 11:22 am ]
Post subject:  Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
The Necron and Yme-Loc army lists have received updates, along with a few minor changes to Alaitoc, Ulthwe and the Cobra.

These updates will be valid from the BHGS Challenge (June 18th/19th).

Change list

Necrons
1. C'tan critical change
2. C'tan moved out of 1/3rd limitation
3. Monolith Maniple - Monolith upgrade changed from 2 Obelisks for 75 to 1 or 2 for 50 each
4. Immortal upgrade - upgrade changed from 3 Immortals for 100 to 2 for 75
5. Tomb Spyder - CC4+
6. Wraith Maniple added

Yme-Loc
1. Engine of Vaul host - changed from 2 for 400 to 1 for 250 + 1 or 2 for 200 each
2. Engine of Vaul host - no longer mandatory
3. Mounted Guardian troupe - reduced to 300
4. Autarch replaced with Master Bonesinger
5. Lynx troupe added

Alaitoc
1. Pathfinders - Init 1+

Ulthwe
1. Strategy 5 replaced by Seers of Ulthwe special rule

General Eldar change
1. Cobra - macro weapon on barrage attack
Author:  kyussinchains [ Mon May 16, 2016 11:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
Good call on adding lynxes to the yme-loc list :)

Will update armyforge this afternoon if I have time
Author:  Blip [ Mon May 16, 2016 11:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
Looks like its Yme-Loc for me next! :-)


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Author:  MrGonzo [ Mon May 16, 2016 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
NERF, NERF, NERF :spin

Need to pull the new codex still but the Necron updates seem good, especially moving the C'Tan out of the heavy hitter section.
I take it that update 3 should read '... from 2 Monolith for...'?!

Now if the spaceship would have come down in points...
Author:  StevekCole [ Mon May 16, 2016 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
Very interested in the changes to yme locc, looks like a real boost.
Author:  ffoley [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
a deserved boost for yme-loc courtesy of yme-loc

where can I get me some lynxes :)
Author:  RichardL [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
Yep, looks a very positive update for the Yme-loc on the whole :)

Not sure what to make of the Necron changes overall yet, nice to see a unit of wraiths to try out, but curious to see how much of a difference the reduction in the number of immortals in a unit will make to their ability to take on more challenging assault units, which were already a bit touch and go!
Author:  MrGonzo [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
Right, after having pulled the Necron codex:

The Monolith upgrade still feels good, for a nerf.

Immortals did not just become more expensive, the codex comments forget to mention that their actual number has been cut. Now i got 3 Immortal bases that i can't use till i physically buy a 4th infantry phalanx. :(

Very much looking forward to fielding a C'Tan more often!
Not that it helps in any way with its bullseye :D

Better CC on the Tomb Spider is nice, though i don't see why it would make me play it more.
Except for the same reason as before, to push a phalanx into single BTS territory.

I need to commission painting for a single Wraith base to make a formation of 4, haha *cry a little

On a different note, i dare say that the codex update overall shows the same pattern like previous nerfs.
Certain units or formations that where too good got weakened without really opening up other list options for players to explore. An elite (though fast) CC formations, a CC buff of the Tomb Spider and making a supreme commander WE not part of 1/3 section just won't make for a new build.

Having said that, i look forward to play my Necrons just as much as before! :)
Which is way better then last time one of my armies got updated, hehe

Last but not least, thanks to team EpicUK for their continuous efforts! *thumb up
Author:  tc63 [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
Just a quick one on the Necron list, Wraiths are still listed as possible upgrades for some of the formations, but there is no option for wraiths in the upgrades section anymore.
Author:  StevekCole [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
Flo don't think this is actually much of a nerf bat. By way of example Richard's Necron list of horror is still pretty much viable. You just sub flayed ones for heavy destroyers and lose a few immortals but maybe add a pariah or 2.
Author:  yme-loc [ Mon May 16, 2016 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
tc63 wrote:
Just a quick one on the Necron list, Wraiths are still listed as possible upgrades for some of the formations, but there is no option for wraiths in the upgrades section anymore.


That is a quick ref error, Wraith upgrade is removed and replaced by Maniple. Thanks for the spot. Codex is correct
Author:  MrGonzo [ Wed May 18, 2016 12:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
StevekCole wrote:
Flo don't think this is actually much of a nerf bat. By way of example Richard's Necron list of horror is still pretty much viable. You just sub flayed ones for heavy destroyers and lose a few immortals but maybe add a pariah or 2.


A nerf is a nerf. :)
I agree though, the current Necron lists (if there are even more then 1.5) don't really change.
But that is what i said.
Author:  Apocolocyntosis [ Wed May 18, 2016 3:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
very interested to play about with the new yme-loc, should make list building a lot more interesting
Author:  kyussinchains [ Wed May 18, 2016 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
Armyforge has been updated, just waiting on Adam to push it live...
Author:  Kyrt [ Wed May 18, 2016 7:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic UK Update - Necrons, Yme-Loc
Definitely improvements for yme loc, addresses some of the fundamental issues that made it so unworkable.
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