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Epic-UK codex updates.
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Author:  MephistonAG [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Epic-UK codex updates.
Today is update day at Epic-UK, with new versions of the codex’s for Space Marines, Chaos Marines, Eldar and Tau posted. They include the following changes, and should be the versions in use at all Epic-UK events from today. Have fun :)

Codex Craftworld Eldar
Two new army lists the scout heavy Alaitoc and a new mechanised army in Yme-Loc.
No additional updates since the previous review.

Codex Space Marines
One new army list in the form of the iconic Space Wolves.
Black Templar updates – New aircraft option in the Stormtalon, Thunderhawk Transporter 25 points reduction, Neophytes upgrade points reduction to 25pts for two.
Blood Angel updates – Baal Predator formation 25 points reduction.
Dark Angel updates – New Aircraft option in the Nephilim, Dark Angel Devastator and Ravenwing formations 25 points reductions.
White Scars updates – White Scars Bikes formation 25 points reduction, Hunter added as upgrade option to Tacticals.

Codex Chaos Space Marines
One new army list in the form of the popular Iron Warriors.
Black Legion updates – Defiler upgrade reduction to 65 points.
Death Guard – Retinue 25 points reduction.
Thousand Sons – Warphound 25 points increase.
World Eaters – Retinue and Juggernaught formations 25 points reducutions, Daemon Engines upgrade redcution to 65 points, World Eaters Defilers upgrade reduction to 60 points.

Codex Tau
Changed to version 6.6, the current Tac comms approved version of the Tau Third Phase list.
Author:  kyussinchains [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
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Argh!! I'd just got the Army Forge lists how I like em!!

;)

Can do all these tomorrow I reckon!
Author:  Apocolocyntosis [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
Great!

The iron warrior link on the site goes to codex CSM pdf which does not yet seem to include the IW list?
Author:  Ironhelm [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
I dread asking this (apologies in advance), however for clarification for those of us that have not been long time members of this forum,

Why is there an Epic-UK codex that is different than the NetEA Army List Compendium 2014?

i.e. (incoming major noob moment) why do we have more than one set of rules for tournaments?

Thanks in advance for your patience and explanations!
Author:  kyussinchains [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
Because to be blunt, the netEA process is very slow to get lists balanced, approved and released, Epic-UK does closed development and releases lists faster, the lists are intended to be balanced for tournament play so often have the more fluffy elements removed, many are based on netEA lists with a few tweaks here and there

There is room for both and they provide useful data for each other, the EUK website has records of every army list taken by every player and how it performed, I'm currently developing the NetEA imperial fists army and hope to release it for EUK too at some point
Author:  dptdexys [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
Ironhelm wrote:

i.e. (incoming major noob moment) why do we have more than one set of rules for tournaments?

Thanks in advance for your patience and explanations!


The actual rules used are the same, it's the army lists and a few stats that are slightly different.
Author:  MephistonAG [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
Apocolocyntosis wrote:
Great!

The iron warrior link on the site goes to codex CSM pdf which does not yet seem to include the IW list?


Can you try refreshing your browser as I think it's a caching issue. The version date of the pdf should be 070414 (bottom right of the cover page) and that is the version that opens for me and the Iron Warriors are in there?
Author:  Apocolocyntosis [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
MephistonAG wrote:
Apocolocyntosis wrote:
Great!

The iron warrior link on the site goes to codex CSM pdf which does not yet seem to include the IW list?


Can you try refreshing your browser as I think it's a caching issue. The version date of the pdf should be 070414 (bottom right of the cover page) and that is the version that opens for me and the Iron Warriors are in there?

Yep got it now, thanks.
Author:  kyussinchains [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
just wondering like.... this list says whitescar bike formations have a 25 point reduction, the list says they're now 350.... IIRC they used to be 400 (they certainly are on armyforge) which is correct?

as I'm planning a whitescars army this is relevant to my interests.... ;)
Author:  yme-loc [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
kyussinchains wrote:
just wondering like.... this list says whitescar bike formations have a 25 point reduction, the list says they're now 350.... IIRC they used to be 400 (they certainly are on armyforge) which is correct?


They should be 375pts, the 350pts listing in the codex and ref is a mistake, thanks for the spot will fix it asap.
Author:  kyussinchains [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
no worries :)

know what would be *really* helpful?

a summary of the changes from the various netEA lists used to create the new lists (Alaitoc, Yme-Loc, Iron Warriors and Space Wolves)

I'm hoping I can use those NetEA lists as a basis for writing the EUK lists for the armyforge site....
Author:  kyussinchains [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
Also in the Yme-Loc list, is it correct that other than the single mandatory EoV host, there are no other options to take a single EoV troupe? seems like a big change in the context of the list

also, it seems like the storm serpent is a waste of points.... nothing can use the gate, wouldn't it make sense to remove the option?

edit: no Simon, it's not correct, and you're an idiot for thinking so....
Author:  MephistonAG [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
kyussinchains wrote:
also, it seems like the storm serpent is a waste of points.... nothing can use the gate, wouldn't it make sense to remove the option?


Vypers can?
Author:  kyussinchains [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
ah I assumed it was only light vehicles with the walker ability..... I'm wrong about everything today it seems
Author:  yme-loc [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epic-UK codex updates.
Hornets can use it as well.
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