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Battle of the Chumps 2012- Army List Submission Deadline!

 Post subject: Battle of the Chumps 2012- Army List Submission Deadline!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:34 pm 
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Hello guys, and thanks for entering Battle of the Chumps 2012 Epic Armageddon.
The deadline for army list submission is no later than 5pm on Friday 6th July 2012, please get them in ASAP.
Please send a copy to the e-mail address listed in the Epic rules pack found here and I will check legality and get back to you (as the BotCh army restrictions are quite fiddly).
My army list is below to ensure I don’t benefit from knowing everyone else’s lists!

I look forward to seeing you and your Epic armies at Battle of the Chumps 2012.

My Tyranid army list for Battle of the Chumps 2012.

Epic UK Codex Tyranids

2000pts Battle Force
-Assault Swarm- 2 Tyranid Warriors. 8 Termagants. 200pts
-Assault Swarm- 2 Tyranid Warriors. 8 Termagants. 200pts
-Assault Swarm- 2 Tyranid Warriors. 8 Termagants. 200pts
-Dominatrix- 1 Dominatrix. 2 Heirodules. 750pts
-Dominatrix- 1 Dominatrix. 500pts
-Genestealers- 6 Genestealers. 150pts

750pts Reserve Primus
-Heirophant Bio-titan- 1 Heirophant Bio-titan. 300pts
-Harassment Swarm- 1 Harridan. 4 Gargoyles. 225pts
-Harassment Swarm- 1 Harridan. 4 Gargoyles. 225pts

1000pts Reserve Secundus
-Assault Swarm- 2 Tyranid Warriors. 6 Hormagaunts. 2 Termagants.
1 Gargoyle. 220pts
-Nest Swarm- 1 Synapse Node. 4 Termagants. 2 Biovores.
1 Zoanthrope. 280pts
-Heirophant Bio-titan- 1 Heirophant Bio-titan. 300pts
-Lictor Swarm- 4 Lictors. 200pts


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:45 pm 
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I am struggling mightily with this.....

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:51 pm 
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The army list restrictions are a tricky balancing act, any questions or help needed just e-mail me on the address found in the rulespack!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:17 am 
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Make a 2000 point list, abiding by all usual restrictions.

Make a 750 point list to add to it, abiding by all usual restrictions. The combined total must also abide by all restrictions.

Make a 1000 point list to add to it, abiding by all usual restrictions. The combined list must also abide by all restrictions.

Combine all three into a 3750 point list, which must abide by all usual restrictions.

What's to be confused about? :P ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:14 am 
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The restrictions are fine unless you want to take an expensive titan. Then you have to mix it into one of your 1000 or 750pt support armies. This then restricts what else you can play with and unbalances your army for two games. It's a risk that some will take and others will not.

I'll leave you with this example, say I want to take an Eldar Warlock titan, the only way I can fit it in is to take it in the 1000pt slot. As it is 850pts this will leave me with 150pts to play with not a lot of choice left if I'm playing Ulthwe.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:35 pm 
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Indeed. If I have read the restrictions correctly, the main army and the reserves must each follow the usual army restrictions, so any points left over from the titan must be spent on the 'main' formation type (basically Guardians for Eldar).

Consequently this also impacts several other races where there is the same kind of list restriction; IG, BL and possibly LaTD as well


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:28 pm 
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Close but not quite.

The Reserve 750 and 1000pts forces must be legal when combined with the 2000pts Battle Force, so your 'main/core' formations may be included in the Battle Force to allow additional Support formations in Reserve forces from them.


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The main change from previous years is that the 2k must be legal in its own too, which makes lists more difficult as, for example, 2 warhounds+tbolts can't fit in the 2k now

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Steve54 wrote:
The main change from previous years is that the 2k must be legal in its own too, which makes lists more difficult as, for example, 2 warhounds+tbolts can't fit in the 2k now


gah!! You're right.... *bins yet another set of lists*

all this effort and I'm just going to lose all 5 games anyway! :{[]

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:55 pm 
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Jeridian wrote:
-Dominatrix- 1 Dominatrix. 2 Heirodules. 750pts
-Dominatrix- 1 Dominatrix. 500pts

-Nest Swarm- 1 Synapse Node. 4 Termagants. 2 Biovores.
1 Zoanthrope. 280pts

Oooh, two dominatrix. Was playing with list ideas around that, couldn't settle on a list I thought would work at 3000pt. Also interested to see how a Nest will work. Wouldn't mind playing a game against this list.


My list:

Iyanden

Core (2000pt)
Spirit Host + Wraithseer + WaveSerpent [750] (BTS)
Spirit Host + Wraithlord [525]
Stormserpent + Spirit Stone [275]
Falcon + Spirit Stone [275]
Night Spinner [175]

Reserve A (1000pt)
Spirit Host [350]
Wind Rider [200]
Wind Rider [200]
Vampire [200]
Wraithgate [50]

Reserve B (750pt)
Fire Prism [250]
Vampire [200]
Nightwings [300]

Combination - Air Limit
Core - 0/667
Core+A - 200/1000
Core+B - 500/917
Core+A+B - 700/1250


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:07 am 
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Jeridan, I understand about combining the 750 and 1000 reserve forces with the main force. However the point that Tim and Steve make is that the 2000 point 'main' force has to be legal on its own and is therefore constrained to 667 points of titans etc. This restricts the use of the larger titans (850 points) to the 'second reserve' formation. However, the army list constraints for a number of races means that doing this is likely to waste the surplus 150 points.

A better way of doing this IMO would be to allow the 2000 point 'main' force to include up to 917 points of titans etc. because it is always combined with one of the reserves, as this follows the same logic applied to the 'reserve' force allocations.


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I don't mind that Ginger, we had the same sort of restraint last year and you just have to be careful in the 2750pt game as your BTS changes.


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Codex SM

Tacticals+SC+Hunter 475
Devastators 250
Thunderhawk 200
Strike Cruiser 200
Warhound 275
Warhound 275
Scouts 150
Scouts+Razorback 175

Terminators+Chaplain 400
Thunderbolts 150
Land Speeders 200

Terminators+Captain 400
Thunderbolts 150
Thunderhawk 200
Predators (2 Annihilators+2 Destructors)

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My list for BoTCh.

Codex Marines

Main Battle group,
Tacticals + Transport + SC + Hunter + Razorback (BTS) 500
Devastators + Transport 250
Scouts + Transport 150
Thunderhawk 200
Thunderhawk 200
Terminators 350
Thunderbolts 150
Strike Cruiser 200

Reserve Primus,
Predator Anihilators + Hunter 350
Land Speeders 200
Land Speeder Tornadoes 200

Reserve Secundus,
Devastators + Transport + Hunter 325
Scouts + Transport 150
Scouts + Transport 150
Predator Destructors 225
Thunderbolts 150


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Steel Legion

Main Battle Group
Regimental HQ + Hydra + sniper - 575
Infantry company + hydra + sniper - 325
Sentinels - 100
Deathstrikes - 200
Basilisks - 250
Warhound - 275
Warhound -275

reserve primus
Mechanised infantry company - 400
Shadowsword - 200
Hydra Battery - 150

reserve secundus
Super Heavy Tank Company (2 baneblades, 1 shadowsword) + hydra - 550
Shadowsword - 200
Sentinels - 100
Thunderbolts - 150

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