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New UK EPIC tournament clarafications
Braveheart
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:09 pm 
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As discussed at the GT this weekend, I've added the two additional clarafications to the rulespack:

Reserves
Any unit placed in reserves (for example, aircraft, teleports) do not count as units for deployment purposes. Instead units are decided to be deployed in reserve after plotting of spacecraft but before garrisons.

Eldar
The Avatar uses the same rules as teleports for deciding who deploys first (using the highest initiative to deploy first).


Please let me know what you think; if it makes sense and if it's saying the right thing.

Also I'm thinking of adding a clarafication for the webway portal; stopping people blocking it ... anyone got any ideas?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:44 am 
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(Braveheart @ Oct. 28 2007,19:09)
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Also I'm thinking of adding a clarafication for the webway portal; stopping people blocking it ... anyone got any ideas?

As a dedicated Eldar player, what's wrong with letting the opponent block it?  Surely it makes sense from a "real world" perspective that a 'gate swarming with enemies might be hard to use.

Why can't the Eldar player be forced to use an "on board" formation to clear the 'gate first?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:41 am 
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I would be more worried about the "cheesy" tactic of putting all the objectives into buildings or similar, basically forcing Eldar to put the wraithgate into blitz =]  (providing she has any mounted units in reserve)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:21 am 
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I think that the problem Braveheart wants to stop is when some power player goes and wins the initiative on the first turn and dumps a Uge Speed Freak Mob on the Wraithgate before the Eldar have a chance to bring out a third to half the army that were sitting in the portal.

However my point of view is that a webway replaces an object and objectives do not block line of sight or have a ZoC. If you take the risk then you have to be prepared for the consequences.

All other changes are fine.

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Braveheart
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:38 pm 
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I was thinking about only allowing the unit in the portal to engage the unit blocking it. No models are put onto the board from the portal, but all bases get to attack and the blocking unit would get everything within 15cm of the portal (FF only, not CC).

Combat res. as normal however if the eldar player won the eldar unit has to move onto the board. If the eldar player lost the unit is distroyed.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:39 am 
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Keep it simple people - the wraithgates a risk, but not a big one just get some rangers and sit them on it to use your own ZOC to stop people moving onto it.

I am all for people blocking wraithgates (or at least trying).

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Andy H
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:04 pm 
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I don't have a problem with blocking gates.  Doesn't seem unrealistic to me at all.  In fact it seems the most sensible tactic the Eldar's opponents could use!
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Braveheart
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:18 pm 
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Fair enough,

No ammendement will be issued. I have to say I was thinking should we have an ammendment? I'm not overly keen on blocking it however how often does it happen? Also with Tim, Joe and Andy, plus Matt not really bothered we can't justify putting it in.

I shall leave this for now

As always thank you for all your inputt.

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Ginger
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:11 am 
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IMO, this needs a little more discussion, because the opponent places the objectives and can do so to ensure his formations may automatically block the gate with their firat move.

For what it's worth, on the SG boards there was quite a lot of inconclusive debate on the subject. IIRC, the majority of old ERC agreed that it could be partially blocked, in which case only two units could emerge, engaging with the opposing formation as they did. While this is almost the same as totally blocked, it does give the Eldar a little leeway.

However, perhaps an alternative is that a formation cannot block the gate if it marched or is broken?

A second alternative might be to allow the Eldar player to move the statue to a more favourlable location closer to his deployment ares.

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Tiny-Tim
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:21 am 
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Ginger,

You can always replace your Blitz with the Wraithgate, so if this gets blocked with the first move, I think that you might be in trouble anyway.

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