Sounds fun, really looking forward to it.

So that's no space craft for either side on any of the tables? not that i mind about the spacecraft itself, more the lack of deepstriking berserkers!

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Sounds good to me, I'm assuming that Blood Angels will be allowed Devastators and no Death Company

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looks really good Steve, big thumbs up from me!

Stat wise, I think primarchs should be the same as daemon princes (3+ RA, Leader, Fearless, Inspiring, Commander), but with 2DC, although they're not war engines in any other respect, this also means in engagements they will only be allocated a single hit unless enough are rolled over to hit them a second time, additionally, TK weapons will not roll for multiple damage

as they're worth VPs they should be rock hard to kill! probably worth sticking an invulnerable save in there as well...

My other feelings are that specific primarchs should be a little different, Angron and Sanguinius should both have wings (move 30cm) as well as FF4+ and CC2+ to represent their preference for (and increased skill at) close combat, Magnus should have 2 EA FF attacks and 1 CC representing his preference for psychic assaults, fulgrim should maybe have first strike.... can't think of anything specific for Rogal Dorn, but he'll deffo be there!

5k of imperial fists takes the pressure off a little bit, painting wise! titan wise, I'm aiming for a warlord, 3 reavers and 4 warhounds, if it helps to know in advance

I also have 6k of imperial guard which I'm happy to lend to people.... I'd rather not use any as this battle is all about the marines.... but there may have been a smidge of regular troops around too so they're there if people need!

I'll also be making about 6 feet of trenches and half a dozen bunkers for this, as well as assorted tank traps and gun emplacements

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Those Guard would work well with whatever force is being used to represent the White Scars. The Khan rallied the remnants of the 1st Terran Tank Division and several Imperial Infantry Regiments to attack the Lions Gate spaceport afterall.

Also didn't see any mention of the Sky Fortress. Might be an interesting thing to add in somehow.

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I thought about a landing craft with dorn and a bunch of marine stuff in it, but the sky fortress left a 43km crater when it exploded..... it may have been a tad bigger than a landing craft!!

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Yeah I would think of some type of movable pin point attack system as it shuttles itself across the H tables to go collect the Khan.

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Further thoughts......

Will any of the terrain have fixed AA batteries?

Also what about leaving non critted destroyed war engines on the table as cover?

Shoukd we take lots of planes? I think huge sky battles are part of the remit, but that takes points away from forces on the ground......

Finally, anyone have a problem with my using rapiers as devastators?

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also, Tim, do you want to go 100% blood angels, or mix some guard in as well?

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Yes I'll be using any turrets I have

I like the WE wreckage idea

I don't think overload on planes, as like tge sky fortress, there are some elements epic isn't that suited to

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I need to have a look at what I can put together with the well painted side of my army (Kev's old ones), But we could just block the gate up with Baneblades and Shadowswords with an Artillery Company or two firing straight down the main road.

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I'm waiting to hear on any more players so I'll play whichever side if more come, otherwise I'll play when people ard having fag breaks etc , take photos etc

You and Ben id say mainly ground mechanised but with some thawks etc

SC - pay for primarchs and we can work out sc on the day but can't see why not one each

Mixed forces are fine - I think a mixed column of rhinos, marine armour, gorgons etv would look great

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Ordinatus Cadia wants to play.
(I might actually have motivation to finish painting it, too)

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are we having primarchs as an upgrade to a stand or as a separate unit in their own right added to a formation?

I only ask as I'd like to model Dorn on a wee round base with scenery and stuff

personally I reckon each marine player should get 1 free primarch

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Go for it Ben

Ben, Tim, Matt, Dave, Simon are you all ok to manage the points suggested?

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