One thing i'd point out is that last year's team is no-where near as fierce as this year's, you've got 3 UK champions in there, plus everyone's using armies they're very comfortable with. Frankly any more than 2 losses over the weekend on the team and i'll be disappointed, not to mention i'll have to come over and take the piss a bit

North i think might surprise you - most of those players are only getting beaten by the likes of Dave Tim and Steve, so i think they may be a match for the might of mainland Europe

And I will be there to even up the UK luck, so the rest of the UK teams will be on fire . . .

Cheers Rich, that's the kiss of death right there! ;-)

More than one mate.... I anticipate I'll be painting up till thursday night at this rate....

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That is what's worrying me Richard. That and facing the Speed Freaks in round one...

Sounds like we need to invite Norway to a separate 'landskamp' to settle the score once and for all Ulrik. As killing your Warlock in Berlin didn't seem to be enough. You were very friendly in defeat though, I'll give you that (serious).

I should warn people to trash talk a Viking though, they took that stuff serious back then and I intend to read up. Apparently calling somebody 'sheep testicle' was enough to cause a war. Other niceties exchanged included coward, goat dung, and my personal favourite; troll's bride (with all its implications).

Oh, and I'm fully painted since I needed my army for a tournament a week ago. The list has been broken in and has a bronze on its victory banner. Just sayin'.

Disclaimer: Historical accuracy not guaranteed since almost all written sources on the Vikings are written by outsiders, often centuries later. The writings from the Vikings themselves mostly deal with who went were and how they died.

There are a lot of tournament winners playing for different sides do I'd say it should be quite open.

My bet is on the French.

And Richard, at least we're playing.

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I think your selling yourself short if you think replacing you makes the team "much fiercer"! Home field will help a lot, of course. And I'll admit that it looks like adding Dave and Tim won't hurt your chances.



This will be the most interesting bit for me, reading about it from afar - how does Germany and France match up to the UK "second stringers"?



Thanks! I always try to be graceful in defeat, even when it stings. We are playing to have fun, after all.

A landskamp would be awesome, but the Epic scene in Norway is dormant right now. The EEC created enough enthusiasm that we had a chance at a revival, but work and exams put a stop to that. A match against the swedes might bring some folk out of retirement - or maybe we should have Denmark-Norway vs Sweden, reviving the really old rivalries?

For me, the top two places will go to Team UK, followed by Team UK North (who are effectively Team UK B). Everyone else is playing for 3rd at best.

I am in Team UK South (effectively C Team) and we are by far the weakest UK team - we are nowhere near as good as the other two. The very best Team UK South can get is 3rd, but we will probably finish lower and maybe even last.

A couple of rules clarifications please:

1. is it correct that ignore cover does not work in assaults?
2. Do units coming out of air transports within 5cm measure this to the back of the base, middle of the base, or front of the base?

Cheers

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Well, France are the big unknown really - some reasonable lists overall, and the necron list is certainly going to give fits to any marine players I think it'll be interesting to see how they get on first round against Germany - with a strong showing there, who knows? I think the main home advantage for all the UK teams though is playing the E-UK lists rather than Net-EA or FERC, which for a lot of lists doesn't change things too much, but for lists like Crons and Nids they're pretty different beasts to play with and against!

Ulrik - That's because you've never faced the terror that is Dave Thomas If anyone manages to beat him at the weekend i shall be mightily impressed!

And Tim - Team UK is more than strong enough without me, and given i've got more flexibility to go abroad it seemed a shame to take a space this year when others are keen and also want to participate I'll certainly be around to cheer the teams on too! I do jest on the mick taking of course, but with such a strong team i do consider you guys firm favorites. No pressure

I'm definitely the weak link on Team North, having never beaten any of my teammates at a tournament before.... however if you look at recent records (the only ones that really count) you'll see that all three of my colleagues have routinely placed in the top 3 at UK events, Mark also won Full Scale Assault last year... I'd be very wary of labelling any of my colleagues 'second stringers'....

feel free to label me as second string however, I'm particularly stringy....

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Richard would be in the top 4 players for sure. However, he is right to say that overall Team UK are a little bit tougher this year.

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1 - Ignore cover would work in assaults, not sure why you'd think otherwise?

2 - This is something to agree in the 5 min warm up. If you can't agree my Ref answer will be back of base as the rules say within.

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I think the ignore cover is for instance a Stormsword has heavy flamers, these have both a shooting IC attack, as well as small arms IC as well. Skorcha's however have a shooting IC attack, but no mention of anything for small arms - ergo there's the question mark over whether a Skorcha would therefore IC in firefight given it doesn't explicitly say so.

TBH, I think the rules are clear - Skorcha's don't get IC in assaults, as it's on a shooting attack and not on a Small Arms or on the unit notes.

The question is if that's the intended rule - I'm not sure how careful Jervis and the gang where when writing unit stats back in 2002.