You suck it up and take comfort in the Grooming Standards, soldier!  *laugh*

First off, how many Siege players have signed up for this event?  I believe that's the only army with significant numbers of 0cm move units.  So, perhaps those players have to mix up their army a bit if there's concern about a Ambush scenario being used... or maybe they get lucky and wind up being the attackers and can position all there stuff to make a deadly kill zone.

The whole "EPIC: Total War" project is based on the concept of "friendly games", so things like this would be discussed between players before setup.  In a "Tournament", the organizers would have to arrange things.

MoK and I will be discussing these issues long before the event.

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Not sure people have specified what lists they're using yet.

I suspect people - perhaps E&C? - might be more likely to use Krieg than Barran, do they have the same issue?

I'm thinking of bringing Red Corsairs, so not me.

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squats have a bit of 0cm troops including our AA

Many of the scenarios (ambush say) mean that you only use a percentage of your army; here 0cm move units owuld just have to be left behing. In cases where the attacker MUST bring things on (i.e they can't NOT include them in a detachment) then perhaps it would be simpler just to say that these must be set up stationary and on the board edge within 15cms of such thigns as points of entry.
Again however, it would be nice if friendliness were to prevail!
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In Warhammer 40,000, Dark Eldar have a rule that says in missions where there is a clear attacker and defender, they are *always* the attacker.

Would there be anything wrong with having a rule like that, so in Epic:

- Dark Eldar would always be the attacker.
- Baran/Mossinians would always be the defender.


Note that Krieg aren't actually terrible at attacking, as they're meant to be the 'attacking' style siege force, and so have siegebreaking tools like tunneling Engineers, Grenedier formations, and anti-siege SHT's.

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This is from the Special Rules section of "EPIC: Total War":

Attacker/Defender
Some battles involve the push of forces into enemy held territory and the attempts of the enemy to hold them back.  Such situations require an attacker and a defender.

Scenarios using attackers and defenders often have different setups, special rules, and deployments for each side of the conflict, as well as different victory conditions.  A scenario will indicate how players can determine which of them will be the attacker and which will be the defender, usually involving a roll of opposed Strategy Ratings, and what rules apply to each side.

Some forces rarely act as defenders; either not valuing territory, or not having the manpower to employ static defences, or simply tending to act as raiders.  The following rules modify the way attackers and defenders are determined in a scenario:



Note that an "always" effect trumps a "choice" effect.

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Two steps ahead of me already.

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*LAUGH*

There's a lot of "still on the workbench" Total War stuff sitting on my computer... just didn't want to muddy the waters too much as I think nailing down the basics of scenarios is the most important first part.

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Is the Red Corsairs list permitted? I was also looking at this as an option but its not in the list of allowed forces on the first page.

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I'll take a look at red corsairs and read over the playtest stuff again; if the community seems to be behind it then all is good i guess.
My initial gut reaction is that I prefer BL for chaos stuff but am aware that the corsairs are more recent traitors and i do trust E&C on army list building. WIll get back to you,
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I hadn't actually looked to see if they were listed actually, sorry. :-)

As far as power level goes, from my games to date I rate them as somewhat weaker than the Black Legion, bar the potential army style of nothing but cheap-as-possible core formations and Berzerkers in Thunderhawks, which I shall not be bringing.

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RED CORSAIRS ADDED TO 'OK'ed' LISTS
Having taken another look Blacklegion might be pleased to know that I'm going to let this list be tested out further at the Bristol Winter Warmer Tourney.
Part of the tournaments brief is to support community efforts here on taccomms and the inclusion of blight drones and other such war engines goes a long way in helping us do that.

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Does anyone have any objections to the one list only approach? If not then I feel, depsite initial ideas!, that this is the route to go down!

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Didja tell 'em the prizes yet?