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Author:	Dave [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:	[Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11/03
Another close game. We called the game in the 4th turn due to time, the Guard could have took the 'nids to points by denying them Blitz (double with Russes) and TSNP (march with Storm Trooper and Valk). 'Nids would have just had DTF. Matt, can you post your list? Also got a vassal game in with Matt the Muppet, tyring to put that together from memory is tough though. 'nids lost in the third to Ulthwe when Vassal game me three failed Warrior saves to give Matt BTS, he then marched to get T&H. Tyranid Code: 450 - Tyranid Warriors Hive Tyrant, Hormagaunts, Termagants, Carnifex 450 - Tyranid Warriors Hive Tyrant, Hormagaunts, Termagants, Carnifex 275 - Tyranid Warriors Hormagaunts, Termagants 275 - Tyranid Warriors Hormagaunts, Termagants 275 - Tyranid Warriors Hormagaunts, Termagants 275 - Tyranid Warriors Hormagaunts, Termagants 175 - Harridan 200 - Genestealer Swarm 8 Genestealers 200 - Genestealer Swarm 8 Genestealers 200 - Lictor Swarm 1 Lictor 200 - Ravener Swarm 2975/11

Author:	Dave [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [[Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11
Start of Game Swarm 1 marches to the woods. The Manticores sustain on swarm 6 and take out 2 Termagants. Swarm 3 doubles to the woods. The Rough Riders move up. The Harridan doubles on the Rough Riders and takes out one. The Genestealers retain and engage. One Rough Rider goes down. Two more are hacked down in the resolution. The Thunderbolts straffe Swarm 4, taking out three gaunts and a Warrior. Swarm 4 marshals and gets back 2 gaunts. The SC attempts to double and fails, they move up. Swarm 5 marches to the building. The infantry advance and lay a BM on the stealers. Swarm 2 marches up. The Russes advances on Swarm 5 and take out a Warrior. The Stelaers marshall and move back out of Storm Trooper engage range. The Shadowswords double and take out two Stealers. Swarm 6 marches. The Sentinels double and screen the Artillery and Shadowswords. The Storm Troopers advance and take out four gaunts.

Author:	Dave [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [[Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11
Turn 2 Turn 2 The Raveners arrive. The Russes advance on the Ravners and lay a BM. The Supreme Commander advances and breaks the Stealers, killing one. The Harridan double on the Storm Troopers and lays a BM. Swarm 5 engages the Storm Troopers. Three troopers go down and rack all but the Warriors down. The Manticores sustain on Swarm 4 and take out a Gaunt. Swarm 6 marshalls and gets 3 gaunts back. The Storm troopers marshall and move. Swarm 3 doubles on the SC and lays a BM. The Raveners retain and engage the SC. Five Chimera go down but the Ravners are wiped out. The TBolts straffe Swarm 2 and take out a fex and a gaunt. Swarm 4 doubles to the building. The Sentinels go on overwatch. The Genestealers march to the woods. The Shadowswords advance on Swarm 3 and take out two Warriors. Swarm 1 marches to the woods. Swarm 2 doubles on the Storm Troopers and takes out a Valkyrie.

Author:	Dave [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:22 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [[Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11
Turn 3 The Lictors teleport in. The Genestealers engage the Storm Troopers. Three go down from overwatch from the infantry. Four troopers and a valk go down. The Stealers break and are hacked down bar one. Swarm 1 engages the Sentinels. Two for two! The nids pull it off in the resolution. The Shadowswords double on the Harridan and vaporize her. The TBolts straffe the Lictors kill two and break them. Swarm 3 attempts to double and fails, it moves. The Manticores sustain on Swarm 2 and take out a bunch of gaunts. Swarm 5 marshalls and spawns back 5 gaunts. The Russes sustain on Swarm 4 and take out the Warriors. The SC doubles to contest DTF. Swarm 4 attempts to engage and fails, it moves. The Stealers engage. Two infantry and a Chimera go down to three Stealers, which break and are hacked down. Swarm 2 doubles to absorb Swarm 4 in the end phase.

Author:	Dave [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:22 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [[Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11
Turn 4 Turn 4 Swarm 2 engages the SC. All but the SC and a Chimera are hacked down. Swarm 1 engages the Manticores. All three go down and it takes the Blitz. The Shadowswords advance on Swarm 5 and lay a BM. End of Game End of Game.

Author:	captPiett [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11/
Dave wrote: Matt, can you post your list? Here goes: Imperial Guard Reg HQ + flak: 550 Tank coy. + flak: 700 (BTS) Superheavy coy. (shadowswords) + flak: 550 Inf. coy.: 250 Storm Troopers + Valks. : 350 Sentinels: 100 Rough Riders: 150 Manticore battery: 250 T-bolts: 150 9 activations, 3000pts. "Shadowswords advance, lay a bm" pretty much sums up the battle from my perspective $:-\$

Author:	mattthemuppet [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:28 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11/
so much AT vs. so many infantry what were your impressions of the list Matt, particularly the spawning and Warriors being LV? Dave, if you need a hand with the Vassal batrep, let me know, we should be able to figure it out together.

Author:	Dave [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11/
I'll post it this week at somepoint, along with the other two of the weekend. It'll probably be stripped down though, the pictures aren't all that helpful in retrospect.

Author:	captPiett [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11/
mattthemuppet wrote: what were your impressions of the list Matt, particularly the spawning and Warriors being LV? I think the spawning is a good way to go - it allows you (as Dave and uberchris did later in the week) to use traditional BTS with the 'nids. LV warriors are too easy to snipe. Its fun to do it as an opponent, but still. When I played the 'nids, I was surprised at how hard it was to get a viable arty formation. I'm not sure I liked that. Of course, Dave seems to get along fine without it.

Author:	Dave [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11/
Independant arty is coming in the next version. I'll probably put it out once we get one or two more guard playtests in.

Author:	captPiett [ Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11/
On unit stats: this (and other games) have revealed (to me, at least) that some of them are kind of out there. Gene stealers should not have 2 attacks at 4+ per base. The DC on the war engines also seems a bit out of control. The Dom is not the size of a warlord and the harridan should be back down to 3DC. I realize that this was intended to represent regeneration, but the ability to re-grow a limb or two should not translate into more cc/ff attacks.

Author:	mattthemuppet [ Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11/
perhaps drop the DC and add invulnerable saves then? 'stealers are only nasty if you let them get into CC, they're pretty useless otherwise. They're like roughriders, if you tone them down no one will want to take them.

Author:	zombocom [ Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs IG (NetEA) - 2010/11/
Yup, 'Stealers are really not that amazing, expecially compared to lictors.

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