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Space Marines vs. Adeptus Mechanicus - 3000pts
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Author:  Flogus [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Space Marines vs. Adeptus Mechanicus - 3000pts
Monday, Hojyn left its Tyranids appart and he awaked its Dark Angels.
And I decided to play a new list : Adeptus Mechanicus.

Lists
Space Marines (Handbook 2008 + free exchange Rhinos/1 Dreadnought)
Adeptus Mechanicus 1.07

Dark Angels
Tactical + 1 Rhino + 5 Razorbacks (lascan) + Hunter + SC
Tactical + 2 Dreadnoughts CC + 1 Hunter
Terminators + Chapelain
Landspeeders
Landspeeders Tornado
Landing Barge(Pred & Dev)
Predators Annihilator
Devastators + 2 Rhino
Warhound (Plasma blaster + Vulcain)


Adeptus Mechanicus
Demi-century + Tech-lord + 1 Hydra
Ordinatus Golgotha + 2 Hydras
Forge Knights
Manticores
Sentinels
Reaver (2 Laser Blasters + 1 Plasma Cannon)
Warhound (1 Plasma Blaster + 1 Inferno)
Warhound (1 Plasma Blaster + 1 Inferno)
I forgot my Hydras, so I load my Manticores with AA-missiles (count as Hydra) and I borrowed Hojyn's Manticores


Deploiment


I wrote the batte report in French on the Epic_Fr forum, but as usual, it is heavyly-pictured.
Author:  mattthemuppet [ Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:13 am ]
Post subject:  Space Marines vs. Adeptus Mechanicus - 3000pts
cool, I love reading French, such a pretty language (even if I don't understand all of it :)). Sounds like you struggled to counter Hojyn's maneuverability - those land speeders must have been a considerable annoyance. Taking out the terminators as soon as they landed must have been fun though!
Author:  Flogus [ Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Space Marines vs. Adeptus Mechanicus - 3000pts
I made mistakes on my deployment :
- mis-placing my Sentinels. If I hadn't won the Strategy on turn 1, would my Ordinatus have been destroyed by Terminators.

- placing my Reaver too close to Manticores. This allow Hojyn to take them in an intermangled assault and win it with the help on the +3 modifier (= 3 dead Manticores). And during the 3 turn of the game, my shooty titan was unable to shoot even once ! grrr !

The Landspeeders really annoy me, but hight mobility and Scout ability are their main weapons.

About the Adeptus Mechanicus list, I feel it fine (except the über Praetorians). But every 'cool' formation is cost a lot (really frustrating ^^).
Playing with custom titans is cool too (well, if they dont spend all game time broken).
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Space Marines vs. Adeptus Mechanicus - 3000pts
Quote: (Flogus @ 12 Feb. 2009, 11:36 )

About the Adeptus Mechanicus list, I feel it fine (except the über Praetorians). But every 'cool' formation is cost a lot (really frustrating ^^).
Playing with custom titans is cool too (well, if they dont spend all game time broken).

I'll be fixing the Praetorians next. :)
Author:  Dwarf Supreme [ Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Space Marines vs. Adeptus Mechanicus - 3000pts
Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 12 Feb. 2009, 09:25 )

Quote: (Flogus @ 12 Feb. 2009, 11:36 )

About the Adeptus Mechanicus list, I feel it fine (except the über Praetorians). But every 'cool' formation is cost a lot (really frustrating ^^).
Playing with custom titans is cool too (well, if they dont spend all game time broken).

I'll be fixing the Praetorians next. :)

Out of curiosity, are you going to increase their cost or decrease their abilities? I'm in favor of a points increase.
Author:  Hojyn [ Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Space Marines vs. Adeptus Mechanicus - 3000pts
Quote: (Dwarf Supreme @ 12 Feb. 2009, 14:34 )

Out of curiosity, are you going to increase their cost or decrease their abilities? I'm in favor of a points increase.

I'd rather see a decrease of their abilities: 10 Fearless units with save 3+ are always going to be a nightmare, even at 350-400 points.

Actually, my choice would be to keep the same profile but to make them an upgrade of the Skitarii, just like the Ogryns in the IG list. 0-2 Praetorians for +X pts each.

Something else came up while Flogus and I were discussing the Praetorians: they take up 2 spaces in a Corvus pod (transport capacity 10), so how are they supposed to use a Corvus pod if they only come in a 10-strong formation  ?
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Space Marines vs. Adeptus Mechanicus - 3000pts
Quote: (Hojyn @ 12 Feb. 2009, 14:42 )

Something else came up while Flogus and I were discussing the Praetorians: they take up 2 spaces in a Corvus pod (transport capacity 10), so how are they supposed to use a Corvus pod if they only come in a 10-strong formation  ?

I believe I originally intended the pod to transport only 5 Praetorians and forgot that fact at some point ; I could simply ajust the Praetorians down to being a 5-strong formation for 250 points?
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