(nealhunt @ Oct. 21 2007,13:13)
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Oddboyz can only go on Gunfortresses, Gunwagons, and Big Gunz. ?Battlefortresses aren't allowed.
Ah, ok. Had not noticed. First time using fortresses this way.
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I had only 2 Odds because after pricerise they are so expensive I tried to get along without them. My blitzbrigades could not hit anything, well how could they with AP/T 5+, after doubling AP/AT6+ (6 gunwagons as I had, could score 1 hit, or with advance 2 hits and because of low initiative it is very risky to advance). Compared to, say, predators: with 25 points more and you can shoot AND hit with 8 AT5+ and 4 AT4+ or 12 AP5 with better armour and initiative.
So they indeed vere castrated, they could only place blastmarkers (and help in assaults, but Kults are so much better at that), compared to old "normal strength" they could have actually destroy something (normal strength being maxium number of Odds).
And groundflak was indeed laughable, 2 Flaks will shoot 4 shots at AA6+, so they will hit 0 times. 
Give me just one aircraft that should have any reason not to fly right througt that air "defence" (apart from blastmarker). In good old times I had 4 flakwagons, so they could actually score that one lucky strike (8 shots at AA6+, 1-2 hits normally), even then most of opponents just fly right throught (but then they bothered to see if could they fly around).
So I will keep my opinion of Gunwagons being not worth their points. Big gunz too.
Chroma: Yes, now my opponent had only one aircraft which was lucky because I had not groundairdefence.
My fightabommas usually are needed to take care of enemy artillery.
8 Koptas can be efective. But Gunwagons are not, neither 2 flaks. I had 2 flaks, 6 gunwagonz. So, Koptamob at 4 for 150, 8 for 250 and 12 for 350 seems good, wagonz at same price not.
I have faith in the rest of your group to see through your personal objections. 
