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Oddboyz and ork mobs
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 Post subject: Oddboyz and ork mobs
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:29 pm 
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(nealhunt @ Oct. 29 2007,17:26)
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I'm not sure that really solves the problem, though, at least not at 5/175 as you'd still have cheap Zzap brigades.

Gunzmob w/Oddboy at 175 points is also a problem.

I would recommend that the Oddboyz cost 75 points in formations that already contain a "base" unit for them in their core units, i.e., Blitz Brigades and Gunzmobs, and have them be 50 points in formations where you have to buy an additional unit to attach them to: Warbands.

They cost more where they're more focused/effective and less where they're more diffuse.

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 Post subject: Oddboyz and ork mobs
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:43 pm 
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If normal blitz with zzap at price of 200 is problem, then the solution could be 6 Gun-, Flakwagons or Koptas at 200 point. Then you dont even have to raise the price of oddboy (then you would have to pay 250 points for zzapbrigade so four in same price as before you would get five).

Please, dont kill groundflak. It is not either gamey nor cheesy. It is just needed. But killing it would bring more problems than it solves. And if somebody definedly wants more gunwagons, then upgun them. I have no problem with gunwagons, I just dont field them. :)

If you dont kill groundflak I could actually field Blitzbrigade without odd, and I dont see nothing wrong in that (I would use either 3 flaks, 3 Gunwagonz or 4flak/2gun). And use them as harrasment/flak formation. But with some unnecessary restriction to Flakwagons would make Blitz _only_ oddboyplatform.

?Solution for big gunz could be either same thing as Blitzes or make them pay premium for odds (75). Raising their size to, say 8 (10?) and their prise to 200 (225/250) and giving them mob bonuses.

But I have not seen Normal Big Gunz with odd in Finland ever... Maybe they play it differendly in differend countries.

Every odd for warband would already cost minium of 75 point even before pricerise (because you have to buy at least Big Gun for it) so they IMO dont need any modification, no pricerise no stat changes.

Only bad thing I found at Gunwagonz to 200 for 6 would be that after that it would make zzapfortress in blitz quite expensive (Gunfortress with odd) (it would cost 200+50+135=385). Any possibility to drop gunfortresses price in blitzes to mere 125 points (10 point drop) because of useles transport capability?

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