A bit of a late reply, but...
Steve54 wrote:
These are the changes that have been highlighted for development by the NDC project
Increase range on Hellblades to 30cm from current 15cm.
Increase range on Hellblades to 30cm from current 15cm and decrease AA to 6+ from current 5+.
Change flamer attacks from 2 4+attacks to 1 3+ attack.
Give Daemonettes 20cm Move.
Give keeper of Secrets 20cm Move.
Undivided beasts gets 5+ save from current 4+
I've no problem with any of them (except for raising the Hellblade range without changing it to 6+), but I'd particularly appreciate testing of the daemon changes (especially the flamer and the beast changes).
I've been using the Black Legion list heavily the last few months and IMO the list is well balanced and has very few never-use units or formations. However there are a couple of issues that could do with some discussion.
Cult Marine upgrade - I never use this as the cost of adding 4 stands that don't really add much apart from Fearless is prohibitive. I'd always choose 2 obliterators over them. We could change the upgrade to 2-4 or even have it replacing CSM stands? Connected to this and will need the view of the WE champ as well is whether Berzerkers need changing to make them, and indeed WE, viable.
Bikes - currently 300 for 8, compared to Raptors at 175 for 3 (8 for 315). Do the bikes need more flexibility or a pricedrop?
Apart from the Hellblade changes that all looks good, and I strongly support the idea of Cult Marines being a swap rather than an addition.
Mrdiealot wrote:
I'd also like to see that the SM rebate for Land Raiders that is being discussed carries over to CSM lists.
Also this, doubled. It was already odd that non-Fearless non-TSKNF Chaos Land Raiders cost as much as TSKNF SM ones, that they now cost
more as an upgrade is even worse.