The file is missing, it would seem.
Edit: Never mind, it's been replaced. Cheers
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| Author: | British [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
Whoooo, onwards goes the plague train. Changes in this version: The proofing-monkey has gone over it. Morbus Cannon down powered Emperor Titan ‘Plague Father’ implemented |
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
Now the Morbus Cannon is just a slow firing Volcano Cannon that takes up two carapace slots? |
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| Author: | British [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
Scuse me, should have indirect, deleted the wrong notes. Now its an indirect firing volcano canon that can only be fitted to the carapace. |
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| Author: | old_gamer [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
The file is missing, it would seem. Edit: Never mind, it's been replaced. Cheers |
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
I'd put all the weapon selection bits in one section instead of spread out over 3. Even if you put in sub-headers, one section will be easier. I've read the Daemontitan rules a couple times and I can't tell exactly how the Plaguebearer bit is supposed to work. I'm sure you have a clear idea of how it's meant to work, but it's sort of vague. I'm also not too keen on the way the duration is set up. There's a contingency in there based on distance and then a time-out. Overall, it just needs to be simplified. The Plague Zombies from the Blight Missile need clarification. They are created during an action, but they are a separate formation. Do they get to activate that same turn, or do they have to wait until the following turn? It makes a big difference in their value if they can retain and assault the formation the titan just shot, while they are guaranteed to be in charge range and before the enemy can react. Likewise, it's not clear to me how the Bastion Garrison in the Plague Father titan is supposed to work. Is it a separate formation or is it part of the titan formation? (It is one formation, right? Not one per leg?) I love the hive concept. Personally, I'd skip the Indirect Fire aspect of it and do something like AA ability and Transport for blight drones, but it's cool either way. |
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| Author: | British [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
In responce to the 'Undivided' issue, its possible that I will do an Undivided list later, but I'm also producing cult lists, WHY? Well because Undivided, while a standard of GW fluff, allways runs the risk of becoming 'all of the advantages with none of the disadvantages' amalgamating every cult into a single list was leading to a very clunky and cluttered list while I attempted to ballance it out to prevent it becoming AMTL + Chaos parts. Splitting into four lists was the safest route to take without producing something that gave Chaos Titans an unfair edge against their Imperial counterparts. So far as a 'Undivided' Titan Legion list goes - its going to be structured completely differently to these Titan lists, have a small ammount of upgrades and disadvantages in excess of the Four Gods lists to compensate for the wider variety. The suggestion that Lord of Worms put up was how I started out, and the way it was ending up was just becoming a vastly too clunky list - so I've split down to four cult lists, and I have little intention to reamalgamate to an undivided legion any time soon. Regarding the name of the list, I will repeat again, this list is designed to represent Nurgle Titan Legions, the choice of the Deaths Heads, who have prior fluff for both following Khorne and Nurgle (which IS mentioned in the fluff for the Plague Father Imperator), was personal, and is purely attributed to my personal selection for writing background pieces in the list - it does not make the list bound to beeing Legio Mortis. And to get the hassle out of the way first the next three lists will be: Legio Magda, Burning Skulls - Khorne Legio Sortiarius, Suns of Damnation - Tzeentch Dunno - Slaanesh as you can see the last one has me somewhat stumped as I've found nothing on ANY Slaaneshi Legio's - weapons and such are not a problem so much as the piece of background to string it together |
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
The Festering Death legion (Silver Scythes, pre-heresy) are unquestionably Nurgle faction (Citadel Journal #9). Legio Mortis might not be Nurgle.  They worked with the Death Guard, but I've not seen any official source that says they definitely also swore fealty to Nurgle.  If you know of one, please let me know.  The legion is not given a particular allegiance in most sources.  Their iconography is all undivided and I'm pretty sure they were undivided in Storm of Iron (though I might have them mixed up with another legion).  They are presented as being Nurgle in the Horus Heresy board game, but that's suspect.  The titan legions seem to be broken out into factions in the game just to match the color schemes of the playing pieces, without any regard to any other sources.  They did virus bomb and then scour one of the planets, so there is an obvious disease connection there.  Flaming Skulls are not unquestionably Khorne.  They are called Khorne in some background fiction, but they were Tzeentch in the Horus Heresy board game.  Same for Storm Lords - implied Khorne in the fiction, Slaanesh in the board game. Suns of Damnation are definitely Tzeentch (CJ #10).  I'd like to work with you on the Suns of Damnation when you get to it.  I have SoD titans as support in my Thousand Sons army list and a handful of other ideas for them. == Edit: I know of no Slaanesh legion, aside from the questionable Horus Heresy board game. The knight household House Devine fell to Slaanesh, though. A Knight list for them, instead of a titan list, would be interesting. Also, where did you get the names "Legio Magda" and "Legio Sortarious"?  I've never seen a "legio" name associated with either legion.  I googled them and the only "Magda" was an uncorroborated post on a single message board.  Nothing came up on "Sortarious". |
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| Author: | British [ Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
I am led to believe, Magda is used for the Legio in one of the Horus Heresy Visions books, but I may be completely batty - though the Flaming Skulls are not definatley Khorne and at least partially Loyalist as well, there wasn't much choice asides from inventing a Legio. Legio Sortarious is more of a play on words than anything else - Sortarious (with a line above the a) beeing the vulgar latin origin of 'Sorcery' - coming up with High-Gothic names for the Legio's is something of a petty ideal of mine, even if its a little feckless in the eyes of some. As for Suns of Damnation, I will PM you when I'm working on the list for your input given your allready considerable work with the Thousand Sons list. With regards to Titan Legions of Chaos, I am somewhat fighting blind here - the vast majority of them haven't got more than a word in in the background for the well over a decade now - so you'll have to appreciate that with background pieces I am essentially working by piecing together from every tiny bit of information on Chaos Titans and the Dark Mechanicum and allot of the time filling in gaps to add some substance. So admittedly allot of the background in these lists is in-part fanon born of my desire to build something where there is very little - but it is only background and isn't what I consider to be the grounding force of the list - my aim is that the rules should best represent Nurgle, Khorne, Tzeentch and Slaanesh in line with their portrayal in background. |
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| Author: | BlackLegion [ Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
nealhunts observations match my own. Is Sortarius even a latin wort? The closed i could find was "sortior" which means "choosen by drawing lots" Edit: Too late    Now i know  |
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
What with all the mild fuss it's causing, I'm starting to fall to the side of seeing the Festering Death legion as the more iconic Nurgle Titan Legion (as it is fully Nurgle, not just partially Nurgle as with the Legio Mortis). |
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| Author: | British [ Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
If it will make people stop fussing I'll correct the Nurgle list to Festering Death and re-write all of the background stuff. As for Sortarius, its a placeholder that will likely be usurped. |
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
A brave choice, but seemingly also the right choice.
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| Author: | British [ Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
1.0.3 will be a little delayed of course, Legio Cariosus, The Festering Death, will be inputted (and yes, Cariosus is an invented High-Gothic/Latin name, it stands for rotting/decaying in Latin). |
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| Author: | BlackLegion [ Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
Cariosus fits but instantly reminds me of dental problems....how about: Legio Putor/Legio Putoris (Legion of Decay) Legio Putredo (Legion of Decay) Legio Putrefacio (Legion which brings something to decay) Legio Morbus (Legion of Desease) Legio Puris (Legion of Pus) Legio Ulceratio (Festering Legion) Legio Putescere (Putrefying Legion) Legio Esputesco (Rotting Legion) |
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| Author: | British [ Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chaos Titan Legions: Nurgle: Legio Mortis 1.0.2 |
Morbus is allready in use and sadly most of those sound like Itallian Supermarket chains...Cariosus sticks...and seriously, I just re-wrote the background section once, even I which has oodles of time cannot be arsed to do it again. |
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