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Author:  Couchmonster [ Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:54 pm ]
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Hi all,

I'm currently putting together a 3000 point LatD army using bits from my Daemonworld army. The trouble I'm having is that there's so many things I want in the army & I'm uncertain how to shoe horn them in :/

Anyway here's the first list I've cobbled together, let me know what you think & any pointers are always welcome:

Coven 1 (Undivided) = 290
+2 Big Mutants, Daemon Prince

Defilers = 400

Coven 2 (Khorne) = 450
+1 Cultist, 6x Land Transporter, Daemonic Pact, War Altar

Lord of Battles = 400

Coven 3 (Khorne) = 270
+2 Big Mutants, +2 Mutants

Khorne Daemon Assault Engines = 300

Daemon Pool = 280
9x Lesser Daemon, 1x Greater Daemon

Coven 4 (Tzeentch) = 460
+6 Big Mutants, Daemon Prince, 9x Land Transporter

Doomwing Squadron = 150
Author:  daemonkin [ Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:08 pm ]
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I have only used LaTD once before and found the same problems - wanting everything and not being able to get a unified army to work as one.

I would suggest stripping back to basics and making sure you can do a few things well - hold objectives with numbers, have AT formations that can handle themselves, combat formations that can hurt an enemy formation by themselves if necessary.

It is not an easy force to win with by any means.

Good luck. I may get round to making a force at some point!

[Edit] The Greater Daemon has been reduced to 80 points and 7 summoning points I think.

D.
Author:  daemonkin [ Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:10 pm ]
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What is your strategy with the army?

What speed does the war altar move? You may have crippled yourself if you were planning on using the transport formation to objective grab or launch assaults due to its low speed, I can't remember.

D.
Author:  Couchmonster [ Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:41 pm ]
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I've just checked & the altar only has a speed of 15cm's so it'd slow the cultists right down.

I was thinking about using a formation similar to coven 4, but dedicated to nurlge & without the tansports, with an altar to summon hordes of plaguebearers. I'd probably use this for holding an objective as PB's are nails!

As for strategy & theme, I just want to build a cool looking army that I can take to a tourney. In friendly games I usualy use daemon world or squats, occasionally AMTL or OGBM, but those occasions are few & far between.
Author:  Couchmonster [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:20 pm ]
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Okay so I've had another bash & quite like this list:

Coven 1 (Khorne) = 290
+2 Big Mutants, Daemon Prince

Lord of Battles = 400

Coven 2 (Khorne) = 300
+1 Cultist, 6x Land Transporter, Daemonic Pact

Khorne Daemon Assault Engines = 300

Coven 3 (Nurgle) = 495
+6 Big Mutants, Pact, Altar

Traitor Sentinels = 100

Coven 4 (Undivided) = 410
+6 Big Mutants, Chaos Sorcerer, 9x Land Transporter

Defilers = 400

Daemon Pool = 300
15x Lesser Daemons

Ideally I'd like to drop a few lesser daemons from the pool & get a few hydras in there, but that'll have to wait until my wallet permits  :sad:
Author:  Couchmonster [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:53 am ]
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Oops I meant Aspiring Champion :p
Author:  Man of kent [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:21 am ]
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Quote: (Couchmonster @ 29 Jun. 2009, 15:20 )


As the only bigger war engine you might find the LoB getting smashed quite early on too...

Demon princes are your friend! You can have more than one you know!

Coven two has 13 stands and so requires 7 land transporters and at only 8 activations you really are in danger of being out activated sooner rather than later.
As the only war engine you might find the LoB getting smashed quite early on too...

Looks like you've gone quite demon heavy so learning the right time to bring them on is going to be crucial.

One thing that the army does lack is speed and so i find roughriders to be a good filler instead of sentinels, additionally, you're right, you really do need some air cover! If you're tight for Hyrdra's mightn't i ask how you made your land transporters? I scratch built mine with plasticard and plastic ork battlewagons as a base; there's a guide somewhere if you'd like me to dig it out as i also made several hydra's for the army.  Hydra are also great as it gives you a 45cm blast marker laying capability as opposed to your puny 30cm.

My usual LatD list is something like this:

-Coven, Demon Prince, Transporters, Hydra, Pact
-Coven, Space Marine, Transporters, Hydra, Pact
-Coven, Demon Prince, Hydra, 2 big Mutants (SC Formation)
-Coven, Demon Prince
-Coven, Pact, Icon, 5 Big Mutants
-Rough Riders
-Rough Riders
-Lord of Battle
-Lord of Battle.
-1 Greater Demon, 5 Lesser Demons. (All Khorne)

You'd be suprisded how many TK attacks in combat you can throw out!
Author:  Couchmonster [ Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:22 am ]
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Okay so here's a re-worked list, I like this one, but am uncertain on my daemon selection.

My pool in the list is 1 greater & 7 lesser (nurgle). But would 12 lesser perhaps serve me better?

Anyway here's the list;

Coven 1 (Nurgle); 495
+6 Big Mutants, Daemonic Pact, War Altar

Coven 2 (Nurgle); 290
+2 Big Mutants, Daemon Prince

Coven 3 (Khorne); 260
+6 Land Transporters

Coven 4 (Khorne); 290
+2 Big Mutants, Daemon Prince

Lord Of Battles; 400

Khorne Daemon Assault Engines; 300

Defilers; 400

Plaguetower; 325

Daemon Pool; 240
1x Greater Daemon, 7x Lesser Daemon
Author:  Couchmonster [ Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:11 am ]
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Hena; You have only one Demonic Pact. I'd try to add more of them. If someone kills that Coven 1 (which incidentaly is BTS target as well), you lose the demons at the same time. So I'd say that there is the basket with a lot of eggs in it.

You're right there, then perhaps stick with lesser daemons for summoning & spread pact across some of the other covens?

I think you should mark whether they are cultists or mutants.

All bar coven 3 are mutants.

Also realise that those Covens 2 and 4 are not mounted.

Coven 2 will ride the tower & the Nurgle DP will be my SC.
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