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Black Legion rules review
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Author:  Lord Inquisitor [ Wed May 21, 2008 10:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Black Legion rules review
Army list changes:
  • Remove Obliterators upgrade option from Chosen
  • Add the Assault Company to the Chaos Titan Legion War Engine box
  • Greater Daemons reduced to 7 summoning points
  • Ravager titan reduced to 625 points
  • Raptors increased to 40 points each
Unit changes:
  • Daemon Prince:
    Remove Titan Killer (1) from both weapons, but add Inspiring to the unit Notes.
  • Dreadnought
    Upgrade to Armour 3+
    (For the record, I?m very unsure about this one but if loyalist Dreadnoughts are getting this change, then I suppose Chaos Dreadnoughts should perhaps follow suit).
  • Predator
    Upgrade to FF4+
  • Decimator
    Remove Ignore Cover from the Decimator Cannon.
  • Feral Titan:
    Remove Macro Weapon from the Hellmouth weapon.
Cosmetic changes:
  • Tidy up the Chaos Lord/Chaos Space Marine Lord/Chaos Warlord malarkey.
  • Rename Chosen ?Chaos Terminators?
  • Give Chaos Rhinos Comb-bolters rather than Stormbolters.
  • Make Initiative rating penalties/bonuses more obvious and clear.
  • Give Dreadclaws a datafax.
Long term changes
Some of these may be a little crazy, love to get feedback on all of these. These are for thinking about prior to the full review.
  • Professional-looking format!
  • Look at summoning rules as a whole
  • Revise aircraft to reflect forgeworld models
  • Remove non-scalable restrictions from the army list, possibly by making a system of support formations ? the core of the list should be the retinues.
  • Revise Defilers to be a) faster and b) not artillery
  • Maybe dedicated Chaos AA (and remove AA from Obliterators?). My personal pet is the idea of a defiler-like scuttle-tank with an AA mount. I will try to talk to Jervis about this personally if I can track him down at GD Baltimore.
  • Revise the allegiance initiative bonus/penalty system for clarity.
  • Add Chaos Vindicators
  • Khorne bezerkers ? 2 attacks with a worse CC value?
  • Give Dreadclaws their own rules rather than just stealing Droppods ? the Dreadclaws shouldn?t have deathwind attacks, for starters.
Author:  Chroma [ Wed May 21, 2008 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Black Legion rules review

(Lord Inquisitor @ May 21 2008,22:01)
QUOTE
  • Professional-looking format!

I'm on it!  *laugh*
Author:  BlackLegion [ Wed May 21, 2008 10:45 pm ]
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@Chroma: Still need more pictures for Chaos unit datasheets? :)
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Wed May 21, 2008 10:47 pm ]
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This sounds like a perfect long / short term plan.

PS: PM Sent.
Author:  Chroma [ Wed May 21, 2008 10:55 pm ]
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(BlackLegion @ May 21 2008,22:45)
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@Chroma: Still need more pictures for Chaos unit datasheets? :)

Yep!  New, high resolution pictures of all units would be great!

I can take some of my own collection, but other submissions are welcome!
Author:  BlackLegion [ Wed May 21, 2008 10:57 pm ]
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OK. I will look what i can do :) I plan to buy a new digi-cam. This time one with makro-feature so that i don't have to loan one to make decent pictures :D
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Wed May 21, 2008 11:02 pm ]
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I may have sculpted and cast a new Daemon Prince model that could perhaps be a good inclusion. :D
Author:  BlackLegion [ Wed May 21, 2008 11:04 pm ]
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Let me guess...i looks like a mini version of the current Wh40k model? :D
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Wed May 21, 2008 11:16 pm ]
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Something like... exactly like that. :)
Author:  Pulsar [ Wed May 21, 2008 11:51 pm ]
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cool, i like the short term changes, looks good for the long term one too.

what kind of thing would  Professional-looking format be? what were your ideas?
Author:  The_Real_Chris [ Thu May 22, 2008 12:42 am ]
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Not keen on Neals suggestions?

Raptors go up 5 points
Chosen go up 5 points
Obliterators go up 10 points
Daemon Prince goes to MW instead of TK on all attacks
Assault Company moves to Titan/Air
Ferals go up 25 points

Greater Daemons drop 25 points
Ravager drops 25-50 points
Author:  Chroma [ Thu May 22, 2008 2:20 am ]
Post subject:  Black Legion rules review

(Pulsar @ May 21 2008,23:51)
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what kind of thing would ?Professional-looking format be? what were your ideas?

The same layout/format as the main Rulebook and/or Swordwind, essentially.
Author:  Dave [ Thu May 22, 2008 2:55 am ]
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If you need help/volunteer with that let me know.  I still have me OO.org templates.
Author:  CAL001 [ Thu May 22, 2008 4:21 am ]
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Sounds good LordI, looking forward to seeing what comes out. E&C, show us this Deamon Prince creation, tempt us with something new and shinny to game with.

Cheers
Aaron
Author:  Nicodemus [ Thu May 22, 2008 6:12 am ]
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No defiler-AA! Rather Traitor Hydra or Chaos Hunter.

You probably have great reasons why make up AA-defiler and not to use Traitor Hydra or Chaos Hunter, and I would like to hear them.
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