Wow, when did these change? That's really weird to me
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| Author: | fbruntz [ Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:48 pm ] |
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Salut ? tous, The problem may have already been underlined but in the Black Legion and Lost (3.7) & Damned (3.4) army lists available in the Specialist Games Vault, it is said that "Formations belonging to Khorne hate those belonging to Slaanesh, and vice-versa. Formations belonging to Tzeentch hate those belonging to Nurgle, and vice-versa." I thought that the right combinaison was "Khorne vs Tzeentch and Nurgle vs Slaanesh"? Is this a typo? |
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| Author: | ragnarok [ Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:57 pm ] |
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Like much of the old stuff. It changed. It use to be khorne (fighting) Vs Tzeentch (cowardly magic) and slaanesh (perfection) Vs Nurgle (coruption) Now it is focused on Khorne (brutal fighting) Vs. Slaanesh (elegence) & tzeentch (change for changes sake) Vs Nurgle (the cycle of death and life) |
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| Author: | Morg [ Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:00 pm ] |
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Wow, when did these change? That's really weird to me
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:24 pm ] |
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It's always been Khorne-Slaanesh and Nurgle-Tzeentch. It is confusing (and I was right there among the confused for a long time as well) because Khorne hates magic and considers it cowardly. That does not translate into hating Tzeentch. Ever since the days of Realms of Chaos (1988), the actual deity-to-deity hatred had been against Slaanesh. Khorne is the oldest chaos god and Slaanesh is the upstart. The Realms of Chaos books were set up as diametrically opposed forces and they are Khorne/Slaanesh (Slaves to Darkness) and Nurgle/Tzeentch (Lost and Damned). In recent years they have expanded and defined the conflict much as people have said already: Khorne-Slaanesh Old - Young Outward (kill others) - Inward (personal experience) Brutality - "Refinement" Tzeentch-Nurgle Change - Stagnation Creation - Decay Scheming (planning/hopeful) - Despair |
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| Author: | tchristney [ Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:56 pm ] |
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Yep, the animosities date back at least to Slaves to Darkness. I don't recall anything other than Khorne vs. Slaanesh and Tzeentch vs. Nurgle, although there is about a ten year gap in my GW fluff (1995-2005). |
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| Author: | Bombot [ Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:37 pm ] |
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I suspect the brute force vs magic aspect of Khorne vs Tzeentch just sticks in the mind, and it is mentioned as a lesser rivalry in the latest Chaos Marines Codex. |
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| Author: | fbruntz [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:38 am ] |
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Well, I was wrong since SM/TL!  Thank you for your answers... |
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| Author: | ragnarok [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:03 am ] |
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Looks like I've always been wrong. How would of thought that GW would of kept some background constant. |
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:40 pm ] |
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Heh. |
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| Author: | Honda [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:10 pm ] |
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Oh, Neal! How could you leave out Malal? Boy, if you really want to add an extra dose of confusion to the mix, keep in mind for the long timers the Chaos power that was Anti-chaos...yeah, I know, how does that work? 
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| Author: | mageboltrat [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:03 pm ] |
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(Honda @ Nov. 17 2006,18:10) QUOTE Oh, Neal! How could you leave out Malal? Boy, if you really want to add an extra dose of confusion to the mix, keep in mind for the long timers the Chaos power that was Anti-chaos...yeah, I know, how does that work? The god of self hate. yeah you had to love him. Shame he was no good at contracts and got puffed out of existance. |
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| Author: | Legion 4 [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:19 am ] |
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Oh can't we all just get along ... not wait ... never mind ... But really, I've said this before, G/W Fluff is like Orwellian "New Speak". It kind of reminds me of that H/Chan show, about Shatner(Kirk) and Star Trek, "We made it all up !", - Bill Shatner/Kirk ... LOL !!! 
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| Author: | iblisdrax [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:13 am ] |
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GW fluff never changes! Wait....what? [looks about for the Squats] err....nevermind. ib |
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| Author: | ruiza97 [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:26 pm ] |
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Were does Hashut the god of the Chaos Dwarfs fit in all this? |
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