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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:24 pm 
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Battle report to come this weekend when I get the time to post it up.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:30 am 
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Hi All

Next game is up (vs Feral Orks) at the bottom of the below list:

Lord Inquisitor v0.3 - 1 Game
- vs Imperial Guard - as a player

Dobbsy List 1.01 & 1.1 - 3 Games
- vs Test Squats list - as a player
- vs Marines - as a player
- vs Marines - as a player

World Eaters v0.8 (Morgan and Frogbear) - 4 Games
- vs Marines - as an opponent
- vs Tau - as a player
- vs Eldar - as a player
- vs Feral Orks - as a player

So after 4 games with v0.8, we are going to move this to v0.9 with some playtest changes, and a replacement for 'Fearless' (still to be publically discussed) to see if our ideas will work for the ofiicial v1.0 release later on this year. I envision that V0.9 of the World Eaters will be released this week sometime. There will be a ~2 week break of battle reports after this release as Morgan is at Gencon and I will await his return before progessing onto further changes. It is my hope that discussions will continue in that time however.




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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:16 am 
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Discussion on the change to Blood Rage for the V0.9 revision can be found here:

Blood Rage and Fearless Discussion

I would appreciate any and all input.

Thank you in advance

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:17 am 
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Discussion on the Doom Blasters for the V0.9 revision can be found here:

Project: Doom Blasters

I would appreciate any and all input.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:40 am 
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OK, before I go mad with all these ideas in my head, I am going to place them here as a reference to assist me and others with the World Eater list/s.

So V0.9 is going to incorporate the playtest changes so far as well as items from discussions on the board. In the meantime I have also been able to collate an extensive amount of information to assist with the progression of the list/s as we wait for the Vraks 3 book which should start to provide further finalisation.

In the meantime, here are the ideas for what I would propose for v0.9

v0.9 will be released as 3 different lists.

- The first will incorporate the current one (from v0.8) which I will term as Post Heresy (PH); Pre-Skalathrax. This will be the Legion at it's height either at the time of the attack on the Imperial Palace and/or after this. This will also be for all those players that still want to use all their 'old skool' minis from the time where the minis were sized to be Armoured Vehicles rather than War Engines

- The second list will be Post Skalathrax (PS) List which will incorporate World Eater Initiates and be less about the Berzerkers and more about the Khorne Force. Again, this will also be for all those players that still want to use all their 'old skool' minis from the time where the minis were sized to be Armoured Vehicles rather than War Engines

- The third list will again be a Post Skalathrax-2 (PS2) list that will incorporate the Apocalypse vehicles and do away with any of the Armoured Vehicle representations. Slaughterfiends and Blood Slaughterers will make up the Daemon Assault Engine choice, and the previous AV to WE vehicles will form part of the Support or War Engine allotments.  

I am going to park the Apocalypse version of the PH list (PH2) for now as it will be a simple re-write once the Third list (PS2) is completed. It is my hope that I will be able to produce a supplement much in line with Moscovian's terrific work for either the World Eaters or Khorne in general. If this happens, and if he is interested, I would be very interested in gaining British onboard with the work he is doing as well on the Titan Legions for Khorne.

So that is where I am at the moment. The PH version and possibly the PS version should be up within a week with any luck

Morgan: Stop shaking your head. This is what happens when you go to Gencon and leave me to think up ideas by myself   :;):

Appreciate any thoughts people may have.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:27 am 
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Quick question - I've got a wip World Eaters army, and now that Apocolcyntosis has made his Cutlery Monsters  :;): we have a unit that looks a good proxy for the FW developed Blood Slaughterer.

Any chance of these assault engines making it in to the World Eaters list?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:49 am 
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Quote: (firestorm40k @ 13 Aug. 2009, 21:27 )

Quick question - I've got a wip World Eaters army, and now that Apocolcyntosis has made his Cutlery Monsters  :;): we have a unit that looks a good proxy for the FW developed Blood Slaughterer.

Any chance of these assault engines making it in to the World Eaters list?

Thanks! :cool:

Yep, they are already in v0.9 as a support option sharing the slot with Slaughterfiends.

There is the possibility of them as a seperate unit, hoiwever it would be good to playtest them first (hopefully this week).

What was your view of them? A seperate unit of 3 perhaps? It is a good proposal, however I have to be careful not to detract away from the infantry element of the force.

Good to see people are reading this however.

firestorm40k, how do you see this unit fitting into a list?

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Quote: (frogbear @ 13 Aug. 2009, 11:49 )

What was your view of them? A seperate unit of 3 perhaps? It is a good proposal, however I have to be careful not to detract away from the infantry element of the force.

Good to see people are reading this however.

firestorm40k, how do you see this unit fitting into a list?

Well, I don't know too much about their 40k rules, but I envisage them as being somewhere between Defilers and Brass Scorpions - bigger than a standard walker, not quite a super heavy.

They could by a 0-2 upgrade for infantry formations; or if taken in a formation on their own, they could be 0-2 formations of 1-4 Blood Slaughterers.

I don't know what your thoughts are, but the latter is probably how I'll field them (seeing as I'm about to order 4 of Apocolocyntosis' Cutlery monsters...  :;):  )


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Quote: (firestorm40k @ 14 Aug. 2009, 02:38 )

I don't know what your thoughts are, but the latter is probably how I'll field them (seeing as I'm about to order 4 of Apocolocyntosis' Cutlery monsters...  :;):  )

I got 4 myself  :vD

I will get the list out asap and test them as an upgrade to retinues first and see how we go. I picture these cutlery monsters garrisoning with my Chosen.

The main issue I have is to make use of their 'Infiltrators' rule. It is no use having them as an upgrade only if the skill is wasted, so that is what I am going to playtest. Like stated before, it is getting the balance of troops and armour that is important.

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I have updated the first post of this thread to include the constant updates to these army lists.

For ease of use, as detailed above in previous posts below are the V0.9 updates for both the Post Heresy and the Post Skalathrax lists.

I am interested in feedback on these lists so please feel free to post.

Sorry about no abridged formats, there were too many changes to abridge. Change log is included in each list however.

There will be no more updates to these lists for the rest of this month as I wish to get Morgan's imput when he gets back as a co-developer, and comnplete at least 2 playtests with each list.

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World Eaters Heresy/Post Heresy list v0.9   Last Updated: 16/08/09
This list is to represent the World Eaters as they existed as Legion over the time that they attacked the Imperial Palace at the height of the Horus Heresy and then escaped to the Eye of Terror. It is envisioned that the force remained like this up until the infamous Battle of Skalathrax.


World Eaters Post Skalathrax v0.9   Last Updated: 16/08/09
This list is to represent the World Eaters as a warband force after the Battle of Skalathrax. The warbands are what is envisioned would come out of the Eye of Terror to attack the worlds of the Imperium.


Any feedback and playtests are welcome

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Some typos:
In Attack Walkers upgrades you habvelisted the Destroyer in the points cost sectioninstead of the Slaughterfiend.
Angron is listed as Character he should be Infantry.

What does the Bloodgor Packmaster do? His datasheet is empty and his Plasma Pistol adds no FF value.

Andi think that number of Berzerkers formations should be the requirement for Initiates in the PostSkalathrax list. Or make Initiates as upgrades for Berzerker formations.

No transport capacity on Slaughterfiends?

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Thanks BL

I have alot on tomorrow so I will try and get to the corrections tomorrow night. Thanks for assisting with this.   :agree:

No transport capacity on Slaughterfiends?


I did see your post on this in another thread and thought about it. I was not sure that it was necessary as a transport. The dangerous terrain test to do it is just another dice roll. I would like other views on that as well, however it appears to be more of a 40k thing that could easily be overlooked at an epic level. It is something that I have looked at though and will be discussing it in future playtests - no doubt.

I do understand that we need consistency throughout lists, so I will go with what the eventual decision is. For now, I will try it without the transport option just to try out some of the new units.

What does the Bloodgor Packmaster do? His datasheet is empty and his Plasma Pistol adds no FF value.

Yeah. All I wanted him in there was for fluff reasons and a 6+ FF value so I will have that added


In Attack Walkers upgrades you have listed the Destroyer in the points cost section instead of the Slaughterfiend. Angron is listed as Character he should be Infantry.

So as above, hopefully tomorrow night


And i think that number of Berzerkers formations should be the requirement for Initiates in the Post Skalathrax list. Or make Initiates as upgrades for Berzerker formations.

I put this in to try and detract away from the Fearless issue. It would force people to play with initiates. The fact is, that if you take initiates, you can take Berserkers, which then allows the options of Chosen, Bikers, and/or Terminators (obviously you will need a third core unit to take all three support options). So in effect, you can always make the force be more World Eater specific if you want, otherwise it will be more like a Daemon World list that is controlled by the World Eaters. Nothing is 'in stone' at this playtest level, but I do hope that it displays the effect that I am aiming for - a warband army.

Going to bed now as I have an early start in the morning   :sigh:  


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Quote: (frogbear @ 16 Aug. 2009, 12:21 )

World Eaters Heresy/Post Heresy list v0.9   Last Updated: 16/08/09
This list is to represent the World Eaters as they existed as Legion over the time that they attacked the Imperial Palace at the height of the Horus Heresy and then escaped to the Eye of Terror. It is envisioned that the force remained like this up until the infamous Battle of Skalathrax.


World Eaters Post Skalathrax v0.9   Last Updated: 16/08/09
This list is to represent the World Eaters as a warband force after the Battle of Skalathrax. The warbands are what is envisioned would come out of the Eye of Terror to attack the worlds of the Imperium.

These texts and titles should be integrated in the heading of your documents.

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Quote: (Flogus @ 16 Aug. 2009, 23:39 )

These texts and titles should be integrated in the heading of your documents.

I was thinking the exact same thing   :))

I will get that done with the other amendments tonight as well

Thanks dude  :agree:

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Sorry not to have had this updated as yet. Real life has a way of distracting me away from what is really important   :sigh:

Hoping to get this done tomorrow, and then I will have a first playtest (probably with the Post-Skalathrax List) this Thursday

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