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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:16 am 
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 Post subject: [fanlist] Red Corsairs (or general Chaos Marines)
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:24 am 
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Please look for typos, etc. I found some in the main armylist (Greater Daemon = Infantry, etc  :laugh:  )

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:29 am 
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Looking but a question did come to mind : how many points are you pricing the Blood Slaughterer at?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:45 am 
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Same as the Khorne Daemonic Assault Engines (which are its placeholder) in the current army list.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:48 am 
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Quote: (BlackLegion @ 11 Aug. 2009, 21:45 )

Same as the Khorne Daemonic Assault Engines (which are its placeholder) in the current army list.

oh, ok. I am looking at v3.13.1. Is that the updated version?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:51 am 
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Yes it's the most current one.
But i'm working at V3.14, removing typos, errors and replacing the Daemonic Assault Engines. Will upload it when i have Vraks 3 in my hands to look up the real stats for Blood Slaughterers and Blight Drones.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:53 am 
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Looking at the list, not sure if the following are errors or not:

Greater Daemon - 6 summoning Points. Should this not be 7?

Otherwise, looks like Marine support (titans and navy) that has just turned to chaos - correct?

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 Post subject: [fanlist] Red Corsairs (or general Chaos Marines)
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:56 am 
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Greater Daemon - 6 summoning Points. Should this not be 7?

Note how the Greater Daemon in this list is 'generic', and is frankly not as good as the 'specific' Greater Daemons.

Otherwise, looks like Marine support (titans and navy) that has just turned to chaos - correct?
That is indeed meant to be the theme of the list.

In the context of Warhammer 40,000, the Red Corsairs fell to Chaos 1000 years before the timeline ends, instead of 10,000 years before like the Chaos Legions, and so haven't trod far down the path of Chaos yet.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:58 am 
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The Generic Greater Dameon is less powerful as the god specific ones. Thus only 6 Summoning Points.

Yes Titans are more or less recently turned traitors. No heavy mutations on them apart from crew fusing to the Titan itself and so :D
Navy is Chaos aircrafts and "Chapter" spaceships.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:55 am 
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No errors spotted in the RefSheet?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:16 pm 
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Quote: (BlackLegion @ 12 Aug. 2009, 21:55 )

No errors spotted in the RefSheet?

None that I can see myself.

I was waiting to see the points costs and differences between the Defiler and the Blood Slaughterer as well as some other models to try and match it with the World Eater list Morgan and I are working on.

I think we are all waiting on the Vraks 3 book to finalise our lists   :(

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:35 pm 
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Can you rotate the ref sheet 90 degrees and fit it on a single A4 page?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:22 pm 
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Having taken another look Blacklegion might be pleased to know that I'm going to let this list be tested out further at the Bristol Winter Warmer Tourney.
Part of the tournaments brief is to support community efforts here on taccomms and the inclusion of blight drones and other such war engines goes a long way in helping us do that.

From a PERSONAL point of view i must say i'm not keen on the inclusion of THunderhawks, Strike Cruisers and 'Traitor Titans' in the list; i'd more rather see chaos specific warengines (fixed ferals, Banelords etc) in the list, the use of a chaos cruiser to add more character and no thunderhawks; i like that Epic lists tend to all be pretty characterful; there's a danger here of merely creating Space MArines With Extra's that doesn't sit well with me!

Good work though!
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EDIT: I would like to make clear that i am aware of the THEME of the list; (new traitors), it's just that it's not my cup of tea!




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 Post subject: [fanlist] Red Corsairs (or general Chaos Marines)
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:43 pm 
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I find that every Chaos Warhound out there being 'Feral' configuration (something that only exists in the Epic Black Legion army list, not in any other GW source) is quite jarring.

I believe the background is clear that the Red Corsairs operate Strike Cruisers etc. (In fact IIRC the Chaos Marines Codex has a story about some Red Corsairs capturing and then making use of a Space Wolves Strike Cruiser). Allowing them Thunderhawks is an extrapolation though I believe.


Note that the Red Corsairs don't get access to some of the things that make the Black Legion list powerful, like god-aligned Daemons (each of which is better than their 'generic' counterpart found here), Death Wheels, Decimators, and yes, 'Feral' configuration Warhound Titans.




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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:07 pm 
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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 13 Aug. 2009, 01:43 )

I find that every Chaos Warhound out there being 'Feral' configuration (something that only exists in the Epic Black Legion army list, not in any other GW source) is quite jarring.

Side Note (aplogies): Would that technology not be shared with the other Legions as they all did attack the Palace together at the end of the Heresy.

If not, what other sources are there?

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