Well, I would consider buying it to use for Slaanesh knight proxies, as it's clearly a walker and fairly shooty.

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So the real question is, "if they made one in Epic scale would anyone buy it?"

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So other than Black Legion's stats, are there anymore "official" ones out there? No offense BL, just not sure that's too much weaponry in your stats.

I wouldn't mind incorporating the scorpion into the WE list.

BL and I hashed out those stats together, they're pretty accurate to the 40k rules. It has a lot of firepower, but with a 30cm maximum range, and DC 2 with a 5+ reinforced save it's pretty fragile and difficult to use well.

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Are three weapon systems justified though? The new model looks like it has 2 plus some sort of heavy claws attack...

Would perhaps dropping the Hellmaw weapon system be ok?

Also

Damage Capacity 2. Critical Hit Effect: The Brass Scorpions reactor explodes. The brass Scorpion is destroyed and any units within 5cm of the model suffer a hit on a D6 roll of 6. If the Brass Scorpion looses his last point of Damage Capacity it automatically receives a critical hit.

That was a previous version of BL's scorpion rules, I believe it has now been removed.

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I always thought khorne also embodied the 'murdering industrialisation' that is the inhuman machinery of industry that kills maims and ruins in an uncaring incidental way. So a loom factory that childs children in its workings, that sort of thing. The stuff we luddites fear about machinery and industry, as well as the more obvious machineries of war.
Also wasn't khorne a twisting of martial pride to arrogance and the like. To go from the conquering soldier tot he occupier who would think nothing of burning down a house with a family inside as collective punishment for the death of a comrade?

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Current critical is:
Critical Hit Effect: The Brass Scorpions reactor explodes. The  Brass Scorpion is destroyed and any units within 5cm of the model suffer a hit on a D6 roll of 4.

The old critical was meant that the Brass Scorpion automatically explodes if reduced to DC0 just as if it has received a Critical Hit.
Normally a WE reduced to DC0 is just only removed from the table and nothing spectacular happens.

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I always thought khorne also embodied the 'murdering industrialisation' that is the inhuman machinery of industry that kills maims and ruins in an uncaring incidental way. So a loom factory that childs children in its workings, that sort of thing. The stuff we luddites fear about machinery and industry, as well as the more obvious machineries of war.
Also wasn't khorne a twisting of martial pride to arrogance and the like. To go from the conquering soldier tot he occupier who would think nothing of burning down a house with a family inside as collective punishment for the death of a comrade?

That's awesome alakazam

You make some excellent observations. I am reading the Slaves to Darkness myself at the moment. I would really like to see the passages you choose.

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It must be said that 'Lost and the Dammed' is a far more sophisticated work, with much of 'Slaves to Darkness' being rules. 'Slaves' also depicts Khorne as a mindless murderer throughout much of the work (which I suppose gives great weight for its presentation as such now), while other WFRP works presented a more refined nuanced Khorne (with some retro work happening since the writing of Lost, so Khorne and Slaanesh can match the work put into NUrgle and Tzeetch). Still, Slaves is an interesting read.

Care to clarrify which books specifically you could put me onto?

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I've got most of the first-ed. WFRP stuff, and I don't remember seeing that much of the 'martial-pride' aspect of Khorne. The only place I've noticed that interpretation being particularly commonplace is in Epic.

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It is somewhat present in Slaves, you just have to look for it. I seem to remember the Warhammer40,000 section near the back had a lot of references to the martial pride, particularly with some of the Khornate Marines (I remember that there was a speech from a Chaos Commander expounding the virtues of his men for upholding the warrior code).
The best thing to do is to read Lost, concerning the formation of the chaos gods from the desires of mortals and the very nature of chaos itself, and then go back and read Slaves with an eye to the information in Lost. Slaves becomes much better if you do that.