Quote: (The_Real_Chris @ Oct. 01 2009, 08:24 )
Plonking your lord/champion/icon into a cult marine/obliterator stand (now fearless, better CC/FF etc).
Well the SC is always a seperate stand and has his own stats.
As for a character, the CC is judged on the unit, and the army does not have a better CC than the Berserkers, Terminators or Chosen for that purpose.
When considering placing the character on a Slaughterfiend (available via the Bloodpack upgrade only), I am effectively taking my chances of having 3 fearless units in a formation rather than 4. As it is 'putting all ones eggs into ones basket' I think that it is not unbalanced. I have taken it in 2 games now, 1 where he died in Turn 2 (I believe), and in the one yesterday where he survived in a broken unit with 2 troop stands.
The only question that comes up really is that does he get both the invulnerable save of the Slaughterfiend and the character. I have been playing it as he only gets one invulnerable save. In that case, I am also forgoing another save potential on a stand.
I think all of that makes it quite a reasonable and balanced decision as to whether to upgrade the Slaughterfiend or not. I will try it out again in tonights game and see if I can do anything with this blasted unit. If this fails, I may consider 2 formations of them.