I would support a weaker Greater Daemon for Undivided or maybe none at all. It would really distinguish the BL list further from the cult lists.

Happy with the rules above though - happy to see change coming for the better.

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nice to see some change to a list that i feel had lost its way alittle.

these are the sort of changes that will make the black legion fun and intresting to use again
hope to get some time to play test

must buy a new black legion army))

The new Helltalon stats are not modified on the reference sheet at the beginning of topic. Purposeful?

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No 45cm should be 30cm on their weapons stats

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Both weapons or just the Twin Lascannon? And IC on Bombs I presume?

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As in the change list in 1st post - AA weapon to 30cm, IC on bombs, 225pts

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Another game this week vs SM with 2 thawks, no warhounds

I took
Retinue+DP+Rhinos
Retinue+Rhinos
Retinue+Oblit
Chosen+rhinos
Chosen+rhinos
Raptors
Raptors
Havocs (i played these as 225pts incl 2 rhinos)
Decimator
Decimators
2 Preds+2 LR
Hellblades
Devastation

I wanted to how the list+activation count worked without buying pacts, wasn't the greatest test as Daves Thawk full of terminators was shot down and I went first every turn. Havocs worked ok without daemons but degrade quickly with small size+no ATSKNF

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how come BL have no artillery formations? or is the decimator meant to cover this area?

Alex

The list is supposed to focus on BL CSM rather than allowing lots of IG axtras

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CSM don't typically have artillery.

Exception : Iron Warriors.

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I've played about a dozen games with the changes

Daemon+Summoning changes work well, make it a viable choice to use daemons and even to take GDs, no other issues that I've found


One change I would like to make from the Change Proposals is

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Havoc Formation - 225pts for 4 Havocs and a character and either 2 rhinos or dreadclaws. Upgrades as before

Just to make them an offensive choice rather than a blitz guard


Any other testing?

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Daemon Prince still toughest thing in the game @ 3+ RA and Fearless?

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the necron war engines might have something to say about that

DP's are easy meat for anything with a TK attack, just sayin'

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So easy to get it too, considering it's an INF unit hidden among other 4+ RA INF units.

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