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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:24 am 
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While the Ork and Imperial squadrons are being built up I'm on the hunt for proxies.

This is especuially true for the Ork squadrons. ?If I have to use only FW flyers to match the size of the other fighters I will, but I'm looking and hoping for some additional variety.

A line I was looking at was the Reaper Cav line.

http://www.reapermini.com/gallery/TrueScaleVehicles

Now Cav is a 10mm game but when they first made their airsupport for the game they treated the fighters as almost counters and made them way out of the scale with the intened game.

see my very slight rant here

http://www.tacticalwargames.net/cgi-bin....21;st=0

Still many of these look like they would fit with 6mm epic fighters. ?

More recently Reaper has "modernized" there aircraft minis and started to release fighters in "true" N scale.

Having recently built the FW flyers I wanted to see if either of these Cav flyers would work with the AI flyers at hand.

I went down to the local store and was lucky to find one of the new N scale aircraft along with a blister of the orginal size aircraft.

Here is the comparison.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:28 am 
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My conclusion is that neither of these would work.  The N scale is too large and the original were simply made too small.  It may work if you have the original SG fighters and wanted to add more and varied fighters to your force.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:31 am 
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You can really see the difference from the side when looking at details like weapons and cockpit.

There you go

So I will continue to search for a 1/258 - 1/300 scale sci-fi fighter line.  

Another place I'm looking at is the Aerofighters for Battletecg from Ironwind metals.  I think they will be small too, but we'll see.  

I'm hoping, or here is me begging, that DRM will do a fine line of human fighters ....  :D


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:12 am 
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Well my quest continues.

First off i pulled out some old 1/285 modern fighters from GHQ and see if my earlier calculations were correct.

I am happy to report my calculator did a good job.  :;):


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:14 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:23 am 
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and then I compared them to the Imperial fighters.

So I wouldn't be seen as baised to only US designs I pulled out one of the coolest Western Europeon designs from the Cold war, the Tornado.   Only the Viggen is cooler.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:31 am 
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Tailgaters.

Well the imperial designs will never win the beauty contest


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:32 am 
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Formation flying.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:37 am 
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I also looked at some Ironwind metals aero fighters.  By and large tehy are way to small.  But i saw these at the tore and decided to pick them up to give a try.

These were the largest of the bunch.

Overall nothing wows me here.  Teh delta wing fighter, called teh Slayer, may work as an imperial design.  The other one is very clean.  Maybe lots of plastic crad and orjy it up who knows.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:38 am 
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from the side.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:55 am 
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Following up a suggestion I looked into the old Crimson skies minis

I found two that I thought would be easy to convert from prop to jet power

The firebrand



http://www.wizkidsgames.com/crimsonskie ... nitid=3529

and the Vampire



http://www.wizkidsgames.com/crimsonskie ... nitid=3547

Now I remember the metal ones were much like the aero fighters small

So someone suggested looking at the wizkids now dead Crimson skies clicky line.

A freind, who owned the sets, took some measurements. The measurements were perfect.

So with his help we ordred some cheap blisters off ebay, my ebay account having long been dead.

So we'll see when they arrive if they will ok to use.  

I'm hopeful that they will make a nice reinforment to the ork squadrons.

Well that's my research to date.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:00 am 
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The non delta wing iron wing model could make a good Tau proxie

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:53 pm 
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It's called a Trangressor on the Iron wind site.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:21 am 
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ok despite the quite my quest continues.  The metal versions of the Crimson skies aircraft came in this week.  These are Ironwind aircraft minis.

I hope to use these as orks.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:23 am 
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Second shot.  Details, such as the cockpit reveal differences in scale.  They may work.  I will reserve final judgement when the clicky version of the minis arrive


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