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http://www.Thunderhawk and Phoenix have shipped :)
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Author:  Spack [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:07 pm ]
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Got a nice surprise today after all the doom and gloom about FW running out of AI bases - a box containing a Thunderhawk and 4 Phoenix arrived :)

The Thunderhawk is a large multipart kit. It's as long as the Marauder Destroyer, but much bulkier and a lot heavier. To give you an idea how big it is, here's a shot alongside some other FW flyers:

http://www.ageofstrife.com/gallery/Spack104/IMG_2354

here's another shot next to an old GW shadowsword and an old stand of epic IG jump troops:

http://www.ageofstrife.com/gallery/Spack104/IMG_2356

and here's the parts layout:

http://www.ageofstrife.com/gallery/Spack104/IMG_2357


The Phoenix is about the same size as a Lightning, a little larger than a Barracuda. It comes in 5 parts - hull, 2 engines, 2 ventral fins:

http://www.ageofstrife.com/gallery/Spack104/IMG_2360


I'll try to get better pics when they're put together, I had to rush these so they're a little fuzzy.
Author:  Cuban Commissar [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:34 pm ]
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Nice pics thanks for sharing them
Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:07 pm ]
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Whew! That thing is absolutely huge. No wonder it is ?18
Author:  ml2sjw [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:48 pm ]
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is it just me or as more models come out is the thunderbolt starting to look a little to big?
Author:  CAL001 [ Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:06 am ]
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Is that an alternate weapon to the turbo laser I see, or is it modeled at two angles. Mine wont be here until Monday, dam UPS and the UK being on the opposite side of the planet.

Cheers
CAL
Author:  Spack [ Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:11 am ]
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Do you have a 40k scale Thunderbolt? The AI model might look big, but trust me, I've got a 40k one too and it's a huge fighter. I've measured up the 40k model and translating from 28mm to 6mm the AI model is pretty much spot on (just a tad too small).

I'll post up dimensions and calcs for the Eldar Phoenix, Valkyrie, and Thunderbolt later when I get home from work and measure them all up together - these are the only 3 aircraft that I own both the 40k and AI models for.

If anyone has a 40k Marauder Destroyer, Barracuda, Tiger Shark I'd be happy to compare their measurements to the AI models. Conversely, if anyone has an AI/Epic Vulture I can compare the other way as I have the 40k model.

I can get a friend to measure his FW Thunderhawk up for comparison too, although going from the FW posted length of 480mm that converts to 102mm at AI/Epic scale, and I measured the AI Thunderhawk last night at 90mm without the engine (so 95 or so with it), putting the Thunderhawk just a tad undersize - although the FW posted size could be rounded up :p
Author:  Justiniel [ Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:16 am ]
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That's enormous dear boy  :laugh:
Thanks for the pics though I have to say that having just ordered a load of AI goodies not including the TH (as I have several SG ones) I am now forced to reconsider.
Author:  Spack [ Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:08 am ]
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I know what you mean - I'm tempted to order one myself :D (the one I received yesterday was for my brother-in-law ...)
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:13 am ]
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Yes it looks like the Thunderhawk comes with the option of either the Battlecannon or the Turbolaser!

Cool.
Author:  J0k3r [ Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:19 am ]
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Now im just waiting for teh transporter to be released :D
Author:  Spack [ Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:59 am ]
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(Evil and Chaos @ Feb. 01 2007,10:13)
QUOTE
Yes it looks like the Thunderhawk comes with the option of either the Battlecannon or the Turbolaser!

Cool.

Yep, it does :)

No use in AI (Thunderhawks don't get the battlecannon option), but the model is designed to be used with Epic too which is why the alternative is included.
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:04 pm ]
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Which Marine list is it that has the Turbolaser-armed Thunderhawk in it?
Author:  Spack [ Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:23 pm ]
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The Turbolaser is a standard weapon for a Thunderhawk in AI. It's under Space Marines in the squadron list.

If you meant to ask which has the Battlecannon, I can't tell you - I don't play Epic, and I don't have a 40k Thunderhawk yet, so I've never bothered checking.

UPDATE: just checked the Epic rules, and the Battlecannon is the Thunderhawk standard weapon in there, couldn't see a Turbolaser option.

40k is the only ruleset that allows either weapon to be used - Imperial Armour Volume 2 has both weapons listed for the Thunderhawk and they are interchangeable at no cost.
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:28 pm ]
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I mean in Epic, not in AI.
Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:07 pm ]
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Hmmm... The only Marine variant list I can remember hich has a variant T-hawk is the Black Templars. ...but I can't remember the exact weapon outfit off the top of my head...
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