Some comments on the feedback:
scarik wrote:
I played against this list last Tuesday with my Minervan superheavy list.
3 companies of SHTs (2 Stormhammers, 1 Stormblade)
3 Shadowswords
2 units of Salamanders with commanders
2 units T-bolts
The rest of my points were in hydras and salamander command vehicles for the companies.
Strong anti-2DC list. He did well to last 4 turns
scarik wrote:
My impression of the list is that it is very similar to the Steel Legion and looking over the documents bears that out. This is a SL list with all mechanized units with the option of WE transports and the Macharius company instead of a Baneblades.
I assumed that the steel legion list was an archetype for mechanised lists in the Imperial Guard, so effectively modified it how you said to make a version that emphasises the 2DC superheavies. The pro's of doing this is that it probably isn't too unbalanced, and that people with existing steel legion armies can use it without too much fuss.
The con's are that it has the similarities with the steel legion list, and to be honest using 2DC transports seems to take a lot of finesse.
scarik wrote:
The strength of the 2DC tanks meant nothing to my 3DC bruisers. Macharius vs Stormhammer is not a good match for the little guys.
Despite hot dice on his Shadowsword (it killed 3 of my superheavies and I failed to vape it with my own TK guns twice) the shooting of this list was anemic. It didn;t have any guns that could scare me in direct fire and the 4BP artillery didn't accomplish much either. It shot my SC formation of Stormhammers every turn and all it did was kill a Salamander commander. 6BP wouldn't have helped much with that strategy given that my SC had 3 leaders until he killed the Salamander.
It is a tough match up for this list. Your rock to his scissors perhaps. The Praetors are pretty good at counter artillery and anti-infantry, but will struggle against all your armour. I love taking on Steel legion artillery with them for example, but they barely scratch the paint of my mates squat superheavies.
scarik wrote:
Speaking of Salamanders I saw they were removed. If any list needs them its this one. The main force is just so slow with 15cm tanks and 25cm transports. They were easy to keep at bay and prevent the crossfires that they desparately needed. The sentinels did very little. The Salamanders being AVs would have saved them vs LVs and the extra speed would have been hard to deal with.
Good points. They are back in when I run the next draft.
scarik wrote:
I think part of the reason for the lopsided victory was experience, particularly mine at using Superheavies and thus knowing what to do to beat them as well. My not having infantry didn't seem to be a problem and I didn't manage to bring all my Shadowsword's down on the Crassuses (Crassi?) but I think that would have made it much worse for him. Provided the damn things could hit... I missed twice with them and the rest of the time did 1 damage.
If you are interested I think it would be really valuable to get your feedback if you guys swapped armies, and you had a crack at using the list against your own. Understand if you're not interested, but thought I would be a bit cheeky and ask
But thanks for saying as it is important to know when gauging performance.
scarik wrote:
Pointswise I only have one concern and that's the Tank Destroyer platoon. I would take tons of those since they are 50 points per tank cheaper in this list than the Minervan one, you can't take 3 tanks as a formation and you are limited to only 1 in a 6-tank platoon. Oh, and you've got them at AT3+ instead of the Minervan 4+.
I ported these directly over from the vraks list, and haven't modified them at all. In that list they are 3+MW rather than 4+TK so I guess that is toned down a little and the points are adjusted as a result. I'm not sure if the Vraks list was using an older version, or if they just made up their own. I'm reluctant to make a formation of 3 with TK weapons so will just leave it as is for now, and have a little think about what to do.
scarik wrote:
All that said, 100% would play against this list without prior warning.
Awesome to hear. Made my day. Thanks mate
