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First Baran list - advice please guys!

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:49 pm 
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Another set of tweaks! I have added in some more speedy objective grabbers and switched them to the light tanks due to the ease of getting models. Swopped the Deathstrikes for a Sapper platoon, but I am not sure if I am happy with that as I do wonder how this list will cope with a big titan - small ones should be easy to break but big ones...!

Each artillery battery will be deployed close to its supporting Inf Coy, who will hopefully take the enemies initial assault then counter attack. Thudd guns have been kept mostly for aesthetic reasons but I do like the idea of having both AP and AT capabilities 'built in'.

One floating Inf Coy along with the sappers to support any counter attack.
A few things:

The Tbolts? Useful or not given the reach of the artillery - replace with AA guns? This would free up 50 points.

Sappers or Deathstrikes - I think I prefer DStrikes but... ( OT: The Krieg DStrikes are way cooler! :D ) Putting them back in frees up 50pts.

Possibly a griffon upgrade for an Inf Coy, or two sniper upgrades... They were only originally in to match up with the GW box contents and the use of FW Medusas...




REGIMENTAL HQ [400]
Supreme Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Rapier Platoon (3 Rapiers), Fortified Position (Trenches, Razor Wire, Bunkers), Thudd Gun Platoon (3 Guns)
INFANTRY COMPANY [375]
Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Rapier Platoon (3 Rapiers), Fortified Position (Trenches, Razor Wire, Bunkers), Thudd Gun Platoon (3 Guns)
INFANTRY COMPANY [375]
Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Rapier Platoon (3 Rapiers), Fortified Position (Trenches, Razor Wire, Bunkers), Thudd Gun Platoon (3 Guns)
INFANTRY COMPANY [275]
Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Rapier Platoon (3 Rapiers), Thudd Gun Platoon (3 Guns)
REGIMENT AA BATTERY [125]
3 Blitzen AA Guns, Gun Emplacements
ARTILLERY BATTERY [150]
3 Gotterdammerung Howitzers, Gun Emplacements
ARTILLERY BATTERY [150]
3 Gotterdammerung Howitzers, Gun Emplacements
ARTILLERY BATTERY [150]
3 Gotterdammerung Howitzers, Gun Emplacements
LIGHT TANK PLATOON [150]
6 Siegfried Light Tanks
LIGHT TANK PLATOON [150]
6 Siegfried Light Tanks
LIGHT TANK PLATOON [150]
6 Siegfried Light Tanks
SAPPER PLATOON [250]
8 Sapper Units
THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts
THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:04 pm 
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t'bolts are very useful for either discouraging air assaults or for picking off broken enemy formations, I'd keep them.

Rough riders too are very useful, both for their scout screening abilities (you can use them to stop air assaults against your firebases) and their counter-attack potential - don't forget that infiltrate lets them charge 40cm and if they get into Base to Base, they kick butt for their points. I'd keep 1 fm at least.

I'd also think about how you can get some Ragnaroks in there - a fm of those, hull down in an emplacement on OW, will seriously affect enemy tank fm movement and be seriously hard to shift (-1 to hit, 4+ RA save). 6x AT4 shots can easily immobilise a SM tac formation or break an Eldar Falcon fm. Not sure how you can get a fm of them in there - either drop the Sappers or one of the artillery fms and 150pts from elsewhere.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:36 pm 
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novemberrain wrote:
Are you buying the original miniatures Icapica? Is it not bankrupting you?! Baneblades just never seem to be that impressive to me, I think they are just a little bit lacking given how much short range firepower IG can throw out - I see them much much less than shadowswords!

I guess I should get a couple of Shadowswords then.

I bought Siegfrieds and two character packs from GW. Bombards and Baneblades are GW models but from eBay, all the rest are new but from other companies. Does anyone know if GHQ KV-2 tanks picture are appropriate size to use as Ragnarok proxies? They look great in the picture but I've seen some say here that GHQ vehicles are too small. I love how Ragnaroks look so I'm not going to proxy them with something that doesn't look like the same. If there aren't such proxies available, I'll just have to sell a kidney and buy from GW :)

What's the general opinion on Bruennhildes vs emplacements for AA?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:29 pm 
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Icapica wrote:
novemberrain wrote:
Are you buying the original miniatures Icapica? Is it not bankrupting you?! Baneblades just never seem to be that impressive to me, I think they are just a little bit lacking given how much short range firepower IG can throw out - I see them much much less than shadowswords!

I guess I should get a couple of Shadowswords then.

I bought Siegfrieds and two character packs from GW. Bombards and Baneblades are GW models but from eBay, all the rest are new but from other companies. Does anyone know if GHQ KV-2 tanks picture are appropriate size to use as Ragnarok proxies? They look great in the picture but I've seen some say here that GHQ vehicles are too small. I love how Ragnaroks look so I'm not going to proxy them with something that doesn't look like the same. If there aren't such proxies available, I'll just have to sell a kidney and buy from GW :)

What's the general opinion on Bruennhildes vs emplacements for AA?


GHQ is almost definitely small in comparison with GW.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:58 pm 
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Right this is the last and final list I am going to be buying the models for - unless you guys can come up with a glaring mistake.

REGIMENTAL HQ [400]
Supreme Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Rapier Platoon (3 Rapiers), Thudd Gun Platoon (3 Guns), Fortified Position (Trenches, Razor Wire, Bunkers)
INFANTRY COMPANY [375]
Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Rapier Platoon (3 Rapiers), Thudd Gun Platoon (3 Guns), Fortified Position (Trenches, Razor Wire, Bunkers)
INFANTRY COMPANY [375]
Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Rapier Platoon (3 Rapiers), Thudd Gun Platoon (3 Guns), Fortified Position (Trenches, Razor Wire, Bunkers)
INFANTRY COMPANY [325]
Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Rapier Platoon (3 Rapiers), Thudd Gun Platoon (3 Guns), 2 Snipers
REGIMENT AA BATTERY [125]
3 Blitzen AA Guns, Gun Emplacements
ARTILLERY BATTERY [150]
3 Gotterdammerung Howitzers, Gun Emplacements
ARTILLERY BATTERY [150]
3 Gotterdammerung Howitzers, Gun Emplacements
ARTILLERY BATTERY [150]
3 Gotterdammerung Howitzers, Gun Emplacements
ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150]
6 Rough Riders
ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150]
6 Rough Riders
ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150]
6 Rough Riders
DEATHSTRIKE MISSILE BATTERY [200]
2 Deathstrike Missile Launchers
THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts
THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts

No Ragnaroks for now, I would have had to give up the DStrikes. RRiders replacing Light tanks for style reasons, and sappers are gone.
I am happy with this I think and will just have to play it exapnd it from here :)

Icapica: FW Shadowswords I hope :P From what I have seen Transporters seem to be better, but I think I will be going for emplacements - AA wont be moving much and it looks cooler.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:04 pm 
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Of course you could buy all GHQ -- I think you could find good proxies for all of these items -- save yourself some money, and get better miniatures.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:52 pm 
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well, give the list a few tries and tweak it from there :) let us know how you got on


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Check out DRM´s Mamoth tanks for Ragnaroks, they are a mix between Tiger IE and KV-1, if only you could get a KV-2 turret big enough...

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