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Post subject: Minervan Tank Regiment 1.6  Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:21 pm |
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In my Wh40k-Weapons-to-Epic-stats conversion system i have taken into account why the Demolisher shoots 30cm and the Plasmagun only 15 cm 
Here the Demolisher is 30cm AP3+/AT4+ Lance and the Medusa Siege Cannon 30cm AP3+/AT4+ Lance, Ignore Cover.
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Post subject: Minervan Tank Regiment 1.6 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:56 pm |
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Railgun (solid shot) has 75cm AT5+ Lance
Railgun (submunition) has 75cm AP5+/AT6+
Obviously the difference to the Demolisher is the range and thebetter to-hit values. The Demolisher has a better to hit value because it is a Ordnance weapon (throw 2D6 for armour penetration and choose the highest) where the Railgun isn't.
The Heavy Railgun (solid shot) has 105cm AT3+ MW,TK(2) (or TKD3 in the next version).
Heavy Railgun (submunition) hast 105cm AP4+/AT5+ Blast, Disrupt
Blast gives you a second hit to spent on Infantry for each hit.
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Post subject: Minervan Tank Regiment 1.6 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:55 pm |
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Btw, hows the Demolisher MW depate is going on? and where?
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Post subject: Minervan Tank Regiment 1.6 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:59 pm |
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It will get nowhere. Vindicator is staying rubbish and demolisher is staying worth his points.
Some play it with old stats anyway (at least we do) because Minervan showed clearly the drawback of the change. (And I do not play my pretty vindis anyway)
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Post subject: Minervan Tank Regiment 1.6 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:07 pm |
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I am strongly tempted to return to AP3+ / AT4+ Ignore Cover.
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Tooninki
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Post subject: Minervan Tank Regiment 1.6 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:04 pm |
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If the list returns to Demolisher cannon AP3+ / AT4+ Ignore cover, LR Demolisher loses *rare* status!? Leave Thunderer to rare!
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Post subject: Minervan Tank Regiment 1.6 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:08 pm |
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Post subject: Minervan Tank Regiment 1.6 Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:57 am |
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The Medusa is equiped with special Siege Shells to bust bunkers. The Leman Russ Demolisher and the Vindicator isn't. I really can't see how Ignore Cover could be justified on the Demolisher Cannon.
The Vindicator perhabs, because a Squadron of them can destroy terrain features in Apocalypse 
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Post subject: Minervan Tank Regiment 1.6 Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:19 pm |
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wow, i just read through 10 pages of Minervan info. there alot of back and forth here, glad to see there is alot of support for this list. im very anxious to see that happens to the demolisher.
im also anxious to see the changes in 1.7. i know they will mostly be consmetic, but i will basing what i buy for my list from 1.7.
is the minervan list totally self contained or will i need the E:A rulebook for it as well?
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Post subject: Minervan Tank Regiment 1.6 Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:35 pm |
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The list borrows some units from the core rulebook (Like the Leman Russ, Leman Russ Vanquisher, infantry stats, etc).
However, since the core rulebook is free to download, I don't think that's a terrible thing.
Note that the missing units do have their stats repeated in the reference chart for completenesses sake.
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Post subject: Minervan Tank Regiment 1.6 Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:59 pm |
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Btw E&C, I think that it would be better to divide the unit lists in two. One section for new and one section for the rulebook units. Would help those people that want to print only new units and not the old ones.
The rulebook units aren't in the Minervan list at all right now...
I hope that the MW gets dropped. As I have a feeling that I would need to do a such a sub-list for tooninki so that he could use it in a tournament here .
I'm pretty much resolved to return the Demolisher to AP3+ / AT4+ Ignores Cover.
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Evil and Chaos
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Post subject: Minervan Tank Regiment 1.6 Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:03 pm |
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As I said, the rulebook units will only be included in a reference sheet, which will only be on a single page, and will have all the minervan units in one place.
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Btw BL, What does your systen say bout Railcannon? Macro or another lance?