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| Author: | Ginger [ Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
The current position on Marine transport is wordy, and more than a little confusing. Furthermore, Land Raiders still do not seem to be used despite the points drop for both the formation and upgrade. See here for a more extensive post So I thought it might be worth trying a poll to gauge opinion. Here are four possible variations to the Land Raider upgrade. I have limited the poll to 21 days:-
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
Extra suggestion: Allow Land Raiders as an Upgrade to Tactical formations? |
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| Author: | GlynG [ Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
Snap - that was exactly what I was about to suggest E&C! Tactical Marines do use Land Raiders in W40k and Veterans (who count as Tactical Marines in the epic list) do especially. With the reduced 275pt Tactical Marines in the Net-EA list that could be a good option for them. Personally I'm not keen on the other options you suggest. |
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| Author: | Ginger [ Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
In giving the Land Raider upgrade to Tacticals, which mechanic would you prefer to adopt from the above choices. I used the Devastators example as they are the only formation that is affected by the current mechanic, and it really needs to be cleared up one way or another. |
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| Author: | carlisimo109 [ Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
I voted to leave them as a transport upgrade… but I’ll add my support to E&C’s proposal to make them available to Tactical detachments. I think they’re better value as transports than as a separate formation – i.e., it’s the Land Raider formation that needs help. The only way I’d pay 400 points is if they could transport other units. |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
Transport upgrade for the Tactical formation would be great, as it'd be a lovely way of differentiating Veteran Tactical Marines (in background terms) from regular Tactical Marines. I've voted for option 4 in the poll, as I use Land Raiders fairly extensively (both as dedicated formations and as Devastator/Terminator transports), and find they work fine. I agree that the Transport rule is a little wordy, but it's also pretty clear and works well. 
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| Author: | carlisimo109 [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
Would anything dramatic happen if they became DC1 war engines? (to let them transport anybody on the table) |
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| Author: | Jaggedtoothgrin [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
well for a start it would let them barge things |
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| Author: | Signal [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
Which is cool, but probably unnecessary. |
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| Author: | zombocom [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
They'd become more vulnerable in mixed formations with other vehicles. |
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| Author: | GlynG [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
And they wouldn't be able to protect Rhinos in the formation from fire by taking hits, which is a most of the point of them being there. |
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| Author: | Signal [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
But they would be able to block Line of sight, which makes it a bit interesting. |
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| Author: | BlackLegion [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
All they need is the WE Transport rule. |
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| Author: | GlynG [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
But then the same argument could be made for Falcon formations, Gunwagonz, etc and it would be quite a signifigigant change. I think they're fine as they are, they just should be available to Tacticals (something for whoever the Marine champion to be will be). |
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| Author: | BlackLegion [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Land Raider and other Marine transport upgrades |
Land Raiders are considerably bigger and sturdier than Falcons, Gunwagonz, etc. |
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