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Terminators with Droppods
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Terminators with Droppods
BlackLegion
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:46 pm 
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In the recent Space marine Codex Terminators are allowed to be deployed via Droppod instead of teleporting. They take double the transport space, so only 5 terminators fit into a Droppod.

So how about allowing this in Epic?
terminators exchange their Teleport specialability and can be deployed vie Droppod.

I think this would be an even exange.
They gain the Deathwing attack and don't risk receiving Blastmarkers on arrival and don't have to show up at the beginning of the turn but their arrival is somewhat less precise because they scatter.

In the Salamanders armylist The_Real_Chris and i already have implemented this.

What do you think?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:53 pm 
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What was the initial reason to not allow Terminators to use Drop Pods?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:29 pm 
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I guess because they have no Rhinos to exchange against Droppods. Same as with Assault Marines.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:36 pm 
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Most likely it was because Terminators couldn't ride drop pods in 40k at that point.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:49 pm 
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I'm not so sure.
Even in the 3rd Edition Codex Terminators are able to use Droppods.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:00 pm 
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Not sure that this as big a sacrifice as you suggest - statistically, you will expect to deviate 7 cms away from your declared DZ point, while you can disembark 5cms back, so in practice you will be pretty close to where you wanted to be anyway.

Having said that, I cannot see why any marines (or other races for that matter) should be prevented from using Drop Pods. The main thing you give up is the additional transport, sacrificing both formation size and mobility. Marines have the TSKNF advantage which offsets their small numbers, but other races would need to use the pods much less agressively.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:05 pm 
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Not sure that this as big a sacrifice as you suggest - statistically, you will expect to deviate 7 cms away from your declared DZ point, while you can disembark 5cms back, so in practice you will be pretty close to where you wanted to be anyway.

Don't forget that the drop pods have to be pre-plotted so you are giving up the advantage of going after a decent target and you could end up nowhere near a target at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:22 pm 
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Seems like a way to avoid BMs and give them a Deathwind attack on top of it.

A bit much, no?

Currently there is nothing wrong with teleporting Termies so I don't see the need to change this

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:47 pm 
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Eh, make them pay extra for the Planetfall privilidge.

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Not sure I see the point when teleporting is so good...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:40 am 
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I say - yes. But seems a waste of assets. I'd always teleport Terminators, let Assault SMs use their Jump Packs. And I'd put Tac or Dev SMs or even Dreads in the Pods. That makes them much more mobile. Terminators and Assault SMs already have good mobility ...

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I say - yes. But seems a waste of assets. I'd always teleport Terminators, let Assault SMs use their Jump Packs. And I'd put Tac or Dev SMs or even Dreads in the Pods. That makes them much more mobile. Terminators and Assault SMs already have good mobility ...

And if *we* agree you know its the right thing to do

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Indeed ! :;):

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:53 am 
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Nothing is wrong with teleporting Terminators. I thought i add some more flavour to the game and allow Terminators the use of Droppods in Epic.

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