The current position on Marine transport is wordy, and more than a little confusing. Furthermore, Land Raiders still do not seem to be used despite the points drop for both the formation and upgrade. See here for a more extensive post

So I thought it might be worth trying a poll to gauge opinion. Here are four possible variations to the Land Raider upgrade. I have limited the poll to 21 days:-

1. Allow 'unlimited' Land Raiders to be added in addition to formation transport
   So Devastators could be given up to 4x Land Raiders in addition to their existing transport
   
   
2. Allow 'limited' Land Raiders to be added in addition to formation transport
   So Devastators could be given up to 2x Land Raiders in addition to their existing transport
   
   
3. Make Land Raider 'transport' capability to be a player’s choice - allowing Land Raiders to be used as a 'Tank' upgrade, or 'Transport' upgrade
   So the player could declare the Land Raiders a 'Transport' upgrade; following the current definitions for replacing transport; or a 'Tank' upgrade not providing additional transport capacity to the formation
   
   
4. Leave Land Raiders as a 'Transport' upgrade
   (the current position, effectively replacing other transport available to the formation)

Extra suggestion: Allow Land Raiders as an Upgrade to Tactical formations?

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Snap - that was exactly what I was about to suggest E&C!

Tactical Marines do use Land Raiders in W40k and Veterans (who count as Tactical Marines in the epic list) do especially. With the reduced 275pt Tactical Marines in the Net-EA list that could be a good option for them. Personally I'm not keen on the other options you suggest.

In giving the Land Raider upgrade to Tacticals, which mechanic would you prefer to adopt from the above choices. I used the Devastators example as they are the only formation that is affected by the current mechanic, and it really needs to be cleared up one way or another.

I voted to leave them as a transport upgrade… but I’ll add my support to E&C’s proposal to make them available to Tactical detachments.

I think they’re better value as transports than as a separate formation – i.e., it’s the Land Raider formation that needs help. The only way I’d pay 400 points is if they could transport other units.

Transport upgrade for the Tactical formation would be great, as it'd be a lovely way of differentiating Veteran Tactical Marines (in background terms) from regular Tactical Marines.

I've voted for option 4 in the poll, as I use Land Raiders fairly extensively (both as dedicated formations and as Devastator/Terminator transports), and find they work fine. I agree that the Transport rule is a little wordy, but it's also pretty clear and works well.

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Would anything dramatic happen if they became DC1 war engines? (to let them transport anybody on the table)

well for a start it would let them barge things

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Which is cool, but probably unnecessary.

They'd become more vulnerable in mixed formations with other vehicles.

And they wouldn't be able to protect Rhinos in the formation from fire by taking hits, which is a most of the point of them being there.

But they would be able to block Line of sight, which makes it a bit interesting.

All they need is the WE Transport rule.

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But then the same argument could be made for Falcon formations, Gunwagonz, etc and it would be quite a signifigigant change. I think they're fine as they are, they just should be available to Tacticals (something for whoever the Marine champion to be will be).

Land Raiders are considerably bigger and sturdier than Falcons, Gunwagonz, etc.

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