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Scions of Iron v1.2gw/epic/Scions_of_Iron_v1.2.pdf
Ilushia
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:53 pm 
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I noticed you adopted some of the suggested Space Marine changes (Cost of Land Raiders and teleporting Terminators) in this list, but didn't update the stats for the models which had suggested stat changes. I assume this was because you don't agree with those stat changes, or was it a matter of forgetting or not wanting to force people to use those stats?
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Well, it would still exist with the Land Raider variants being FF 5+ (Except the Prometheus with its 8 heavy bolters!  :laugh: ) As a possible stat change (Cus honestly 2 twin-linked heavy bolters is better then 3 twin-linked bolters for firepower) I might suggest for the Prometheus' weapons to change to something like this:

"2x Prometheus Heavy Bolters/30cm/2x AP 4+
AND Firefight/EA(+1)"

Then they'd have as many firefight attacks as a LRC, which feels right to me considering that you're using eight of them at once!

I don't think it's really needed though. I really like having the basic SM units in the list, to be honest. It makes it much more convenient when building an army!
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How to make the crusader and prometheus sponsoons? :(

Doesn't need to be perfect just good enough.

Has someone come up with a conversion that doesn't require a Masters degree in sculpture?

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I'd probably get a set of Razorbacks and use their heavy bolter turrets. Two of them glued together should do it, might be slightly too large for the standard lascannon mountings on a Land raider, so you might have to sand them down somewhat to make them fit. Not sure, GW isn't very good at giving size-comparison shots!
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Hmm... but what about the hurricane bolters?

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I'd say either steal the storm bolters off the epic Rhinos (Hey, they're double barreled, right!?) or the twin-linked bolters off some bikes to make them. Add an outside plate to hold 'em together and it might work... Maybe...
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(Ilushia @ Dec. 06 2007,00:31)
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I'd say either steal the storm bolters off the epic Rhinos (Hey, they're double barreled, right!?) or the twin-linked bolters off some bikes to make them. Add an outside plate to hold 'em together and it might work... Maybe...

Well I have a lot of storm bolters I guess, but sounds like a fiddly conversion to me... hmm.  

Don't suppose there is another conversion along the lines of:

Take 2 of these, stick them on instead of the sponsoons, = Crusader  :D

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One comment,  Teleport should be more expensive I think. Like at least 50 and Termis 300 base. Teleport is awesome.

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With a lack of any normal Thunderhawks in the list that might be reasonable here. I messed with Space Wolves having cheaper Terminators due to lacking Teleport, problem was that they ended up with Thunderhawks so they went to being a cheap assault formation when mounted in one. In this case, though, I think it might be reasonable. Would give you one hellishious formation at 650 points though!

Sadly I don't think there's a better answer for the LRC.  :laugh:  The multi-melta might be an issue too, really. You'd have to swipe one off a Land Speeder I suppose. You could take the MRLs off the Typhoon and use those as sponsons, dunno if they're the right size or not but they've got 6 little missiles in the pictures. Little sanding, some proper paint, they might look reasonable as six gun-barrels or something. I dunno.
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(Ilushia @ Dec. 06 2007,02:22)
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With a lack of any normal Thunderhawks in the list that might be reasonable here. I messed with Space Wolves having cheaper Terminators due to lacking Teleport, problem was that they ended up with Thunderhawks so they went to being a cheap assault formation when mounted in one. In this case, though, I think it might be reasonable. Would give you one hellishious formation at 650 points though!

For 650 points it better be good!  :)  I can't see myself sacrificing Teleport for 25 points, 50 maybe.

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