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Scions of Iron for SG competition
Evil and Chaos
 Post subject: Scions of Iron for SG competition
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:17 pm 
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I still think your stats for the Thunderhawk Transporter are far too lightweight. That beast needs either 4+ RA or DC3. It has an identical armour & damage profile to a normal thunderhawk gunship in 40k.




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Evil and Chaos
 Post subject: Scions of Iron for SG competition
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:19 pm 
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In the case T'hawk Transport, I kinda hope that you agree to disagree :). My reasons for doing so is written in the designers notes.


Your written reason for doing so is basically 'because I wanted to make it not as good as it should be'... which I don't think you have the right to do (Especially on the armour save)... 'cos then you're not making an accurate representation of a Thunderhawk Transporter.

You're making a Henahawk Transporter. :(




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 Post subject: Scions of Iron for SG competition
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:29 am 
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(Evil and Chaos @ Oct. 14 2007,18:19)
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You're making a Henahawk Transporter. :(

Bwahaha, I love it.  :D

That needs to be trademarked.

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 Post subject: Scions of Iron for SG competition
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:10 am 
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Sorry I don't understand the 0-1 Prometheus upgrade?

Also few minor editing things I noted. In a formal document you don't start a sentence with 'And'.


The Helios found it's place in the chapter because of it's
unusual dual role. It can take the place of Whirlwinds when the situation
would be dangerous to deploy them. And also they can be used in close


Also describing things in pairs may not be the best way:

Might be better as:

Add 2 Land Raiders OR 2 Land Raider Crusaders  175 points
OR add 2 Land Raider Helios                                 225 points


Also adding page numbers would make it easier to feedback.

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 Post subject: Scions of Iron for SG competition
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:40 am 
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Ah I see how Prometheus works, but I think the layout is a little confusing.  Just the way you have it with details shunted into the notes column, the text is very close. See the rulebook how it has the specific units listed in the cost column (eg for Lanspeeders). Also if Land Raider Prometheus always comes with SC in this list, then maybe worth including it in the unit stats to make it clearer - seeing as fluff text refers to them being used for command anyway?.

Or maybe something like the following:

0 ? 1 Prometheus/
Replace 1 unit with 1 Land Raider Prometheus (which includes Supreme Commander character). This upgrade cannot be taken together with the Commander upgrade.
-Replace 1 Predator or 1 Vindicator /125 points
-Replace 1 Land Raider or 1 Land Raider Crusader /100 points

And maybe like wise Landraiders could follow a similar pattern, similar to your last post:

Land Raider/
Add up to 4 Land Raiders
-Add 2 Land Raiders or 2 Land Raider Crusaders / 175 points
-Add 2 Land Raider Helioses          / 225 points .


Re: And's - yes. You've probably just picked up bad habits from us native English speakers posting here...

Also I'd specify the full name of the vehicles, ie Land Raider Crusader, Land Raider Helios (makes things nice and clear, though may be a pain to change them all).

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 Post subject: Scions of Iron for SG competition
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:05 am 
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(Hena @ Oct. 15 2007,08:58)
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Btw. Any comments on the points I made in the reply to E&C (post 3)?

Sorry need to give more thought to those, and playtest I think.  

Only one yet, was I think probably scout bikes fit theme better than scouts.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:48 pm 
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(Hena @ Oct. 14 2007,06:59)
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Also I loaned the header/footers from Daves draft (which look as if they come from older SG article).

Yep, the left/right top/bottom were taken from the early SG PDFs.  If you like I could send you the OOorg template file.

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