frogbear wrote:
zombocom wrote:
If I had a choice between normal termies and termies with 2 MW attacks, I'd pick the CC ones every single time, even if they had no FF. They'd be ridiculously better.
This is where I disagree. The FF3+ is a guaranteed defence with normal terminators. Coming up against either a skimmer force, or a force that can assault you with a clipping assault is too risky to take FF0 terminators. They are no-where near worth the same points due to this and the CC2+ does not give you the required MW hits to tip the scales to make it a viable choice.
Even with the CC3+ and 2xMW hits, I am not confident that I would not take the standard terminators (purely due to defence) - to combat this, I have included a special rule to be able to pick which termies you can take after seeing the opponent's list (as they are the same point values).
In effect, all an opponent has to do it clip a FF0 formation to break it, then clip it again to wipe it out. That is ridiculous for 350 points going in blind to a battle.
Not at all, its a straight metagame choice. Its like taking a formation of shadowswords and a battery of deathstrikes. 700 points saying any enemy WE will be warmly welcomed. however you have to risk that against meeting a speed freek skorcha horde.
As for the assault - assuming the terminators have their chaplain, have blast markers (say they failed to activate) and are attacked by a fresh bigger formation with no blastmarkers - unless that formation does damage, or double outnumbers the terminators, they only have +2 to the roll.
Balanced against that formation being a mean and nasty thing against everything it is optimised to fight (90% of enemy units).