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Salamander tidying up

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:14 pm 
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The Multi-melta Dreadnought is the Vulcan one. The AssaultCannon Dreadnought is the Tactical :)

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 Post subject: Salamander tidying up
PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:18 am 
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Is this all correct BL? I've stuck asterisks in for the various redeemer entries indicating its all up in the air.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:33 am 
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If this is to go into the ERC Army Book, the Dreadnought should really have a 3+ save, going to 75pts if nessesary for the Vulcan Dreadnought.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:20 am 
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With the wording of the Close Support upgrade you canbe allowed to add extra transport sdpace. How about mention that if you take one or mor eof the Land Raiders as upgrades, that you have to exchange a Rhino first?
So:
"Add up to two (in total) of the following vehicles: Predator Incinerator at 50 points each, Hunter at 75 points each and/or replace one Rhino for up to two Land Raider, Land Raider Redeemer* and Land Raider Prometheus at 85 points each."

Or should it be mentioned somewhere that the Rulebook FAQ still is used whenit comes to upgrading a formation which Land Raiders which also has Rhinos? So no extra transport space?

For now i have added "Note that you can't have extra transport spaces. Eg if you take a Land Raider you have to remove a Rhino." to the FAQ.

Added under New Units:
"Note: All units which can transport Terminator, Tactical and Devastator units can also transport Salamanders Terminator, Salamanders Tactical and Salamanders Devastator units."
Nevertheless i added the Salamanders specific units to the units transport ability.

I added the stats for the Hellfire Dreadnought to prevent confusion and gace all Dreadnought the NetERCs 3+ save.

Also tidied up some funky formating issues in the Navy and Titan table :)

So here the updated 1.9.3 list in .zip




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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:25 am 
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Umm BL you have always been able to add extra transport space. That's the whole point. Its why the list is able to move about on the ground (otherwise marine formations have to have ablative tanks and razorback and that is already done by the current list), part of the reason the air transport can be increased in cost and so on. Remember no swapping a rhino for a rhino and a razorback, just one or 2 razorbacks as well?
Thats why their is no tranport special rule and why Rhinos are listed in the formation along with the space marine units (e.g. tactical is 6 tactical and 3 rhinos, salamanders tactical is 2 infantry and 1 rhino).

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:31 am 
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Hmmm. So no problem adding two Land Raiders and get 4 extra transport space for eg the Tactical Detachment? A bit much comparing with Codexlist which canget only one extra transport space.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:31 am 
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And that file won't open in word pad. I'll do a PDF when I get back fromt he 'Tudor day' at greenwich.

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Now as PDF in .zip

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:15 pm 
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Quote: (BlackLegion @ 13 Jun. 2009, 11:31 )

Hmmm. So no problem adding two Land Raiders and get 4 extra transport space for eg the Tactical Detachment? A bit much comparing with Codexlist which canget only one extra transport space.

Thats right. 4 extra transport spaces. All the test games have had that, and I think the various posts about games have also had that :)
Though of course no flak and you have just spent more than a scout or thunderbolt formation (its 170 points for 2) giving your men some extra wheels. Personally I prefer one raider and one hunter as the upgrade. Though 4 las razorbacks ad 2 hunters makes for an interesting devestator formation, though I've found it to not be as strong as a predator + hunters formation though that is of course mono mission (and a terrifying 425 points for 6 4+ and 5+ save vehicles).
And yes it keeps them running for longer than regular marines, but then again they have a largely air assault bias. Here of course you can't give that to Salamanders and make them air mobile as well as Landing Craft can't take mixed loads.
Having played againt the other 'bigger formation' army the black templars it has the normal codex transport and is an air assault horde as a result, otherwise you strip off rhinos and watch as the formations abandon neophytes as they try and move forward.

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Hmmm. Well i never tested the extra transport spaces.
But well here the finished version. Alltidied up and without a transport note in the FAQ :)
So finished version is V1.10 Downloadable as PDF in a ZIP.




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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:56 am 
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How did it get to be 3.1? Surely it should be 1.9.x as no major changes? Version 2 would be after its review in a years time (and in theory it should never progress to three). Anyway I have all the other files and summery sheet somewhere, I'll try and put them all together when I've finished packing.




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Only a typo in the posting. It's V1.10. I marked it 1.10 and not 1.9.X to show that it is at a stable state now.




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I would suggest putting the design notes at the end.  They don't need to be printed, so people can save paper/toner.  Stuck in the middle, you can't cut them.

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Ha just realised fought the last few battles with the assault plus incinerators plus chaplain at 400 not 300 points! Hmm, wonder how that would have affected things? http://www.tacticalwargames.net/forums/ ... 84;t=15842 Might have either gone for tasty formations or cut a hunter and gone for more thunderbolts.




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Here is the pdf'ed army list, slight change to how you get Helios for Land Raider formations (currently no point not upgrading one) and otherwise re-ordered.

Edit - radioactivity reduced.

Edit - Added the 's'('s) for BL, followed his numbering




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