Is this all i raise? I rewrote the wholeproposal after all

And you should notice that Vehicles in Wh40k aren't affected by morale effects altogether but gain Blastmarkers in Epic nevertheless.

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Troops can not disembark as part of a counter-charge move when the transport is contacted by 2 units per DC, but disembarking from a Rhino charging to BtB is allowed at the end of the Charge move. The troops will not be trapped.

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The trapping is only if the units are receiving an assault, as it makes little sense to drive up to a Titan, ram it, then say "Oh, how do we get out?".

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That is an issue which doesn't feel right... a slight alteration to

On a failed Action Test formations take a Blast Marker as normal, and then instead of a Hold action they
must Engage the closest eligible enemy formation,
Infantry must move at full speed towards the enemy (Whilst maintaining coherency) and attempting to reach base-to-base with all units if possible.
Vehicles can't end their move further away from the enemy than they started.


Would fix the problem with transports running into Close Combat leaving marines strung miles behind, and also Whirlwinds and Predators running into cover.

How about:
"On a failed Action Test formations take a Blast Marker as normal, and then instead of a Hold action they must Engage the closest eligible enemy formation, All units must move at the maximum speed of the slowest unit in the formation."

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that's why I said can't end up futher away rather than must be closer... means that you can just stay stationary with vehicles unless you have infantry which you need to remain in coherency with, and then you can use the extra move to go round obstacles so you don't suffer as often from terrain damage.

The quoted rules section doesn't say anything about units being trapped except while talking about countercharges. I don't think anywhere else does either. Since it talks about trapped units only in the context of countercharging, it implies that units may only be trapped for their countercharge move. I will review elsewhere to see if I can find other situations.

Edit: This is the only sentence in the book that talks about being 'trapped':

"Units may embark or disembark as part of a counter-charge move (see 1.12.4), unless the transport vehicle carrying them is already in base contact with two enemy units – in which case they must stay on board (they are trapped inside!)."

This is clearly in reference to the countercharge move in particular, and therefore would not apply to a standard charge move.

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I think Ghost has solved this question whilst I was out..


They'll take 1 BM, which they'll more than likely shed in the end phase. Being forced to move through Dangerous Terrain is a bigger issue however... potentially, it's a good thing for the external balance of the list, to balance out those 35cm Rhinos and Predators.


Could work better.
I'd like to hear other opinions on Rug's proposed modification of the proposed rule.


Could go back to pairs for 125pts a pair. Or just drop to 75pts.

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It's not a bad version, though it will still end up with strung out units with a couple of rhino in combat. and the rest of the infantry miles away.