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Calling all Salamanders! The time to test is now!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:57 pm 
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Arise from the grave!

So. What do we now since the 2008Errata and FAQ is published? Do we stick to the Errata stats for Attack Bikes, Vindicator, etc or do we follow the NetEpic way?




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The errata mentions them? I thought it didn't.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:11 am 
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Thats the point :D No speed increase for the Attack Bike, nor FF4+ for Predator Destructor, etc.

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Oh definitively follow the unit stat lead of the AC. The list though I think is unaffected by this (merely requiring other work!).

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And wat will the Army Champ do? Alter the Rulebook units stats? Or create NetEpic units stats?

Will the Salamanders army list be based on the Rulebook or based on NetEpicArmageddon?

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Currently looks that way (changing). As all the playtesters are involved in that as well! Besides the SG game is apparently locked, so what good is doing stuff for that?

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The rulebook is loked. Yes. I don't know for sure about the army list.

Besides. I had an idea to make the Salamanders Tacticals and Devastators units stand out from the gerneric ones. Just paint the Missile Launcher in a different color! A fiery yellow/orange instead of black would look fine.

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So how about updating the armylist to current Rulebook stats and sending it to Andy so that he hopefully uploads it into the Vault?

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I would like to play a couple more games as currently its a bit underpowered. But soon, soon!

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I hope from end of April to beginning of May i have time to playtest a bit more.

And i hope with publishing the list in the Vault we will receive more playtest results.




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Next BatRep will be here:

http://www.tacticalwargames.net/cgi-bin....t=12471

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And yes. The Salamanders do feel somewhat underpowered. Or is it my inferior strategy? :D

The low activations count is feld badly against armies which usually have a high activation count (Space Marines, Eldar).
The Salamanders Tacticals/Devastators are vernynice to bulk up formations and thus make themmore resilient and harder to break but the Multi-meltas don't doe significant damage.
Either the range is to low, or the to-hit number in assaults is to bad to hit something.

The Land Raider Helios is to cheap. It is only availabe in the Land Raider Detachment where its decreased transport ability doesn't matter because the formation can't transport any units anyway.
The Whirlwind launcher hits most of the time only on a 6+ but usually has 2-4 units under the template PLUS the two Twin Lascannons. Thats more than an unmodified Land Raider can attack. And the Whirlwind is as good against infantry as against armoured vehicles. So upping the price to +50pts instead of +25 seems in order.

Land Raider Prometheus feels ok. He has good firepower for its points and the Comm Link ability is quite useful but sees use soemwhat seldom because of the already low activation count of the Salamanders.




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can someone re-upload the pdf? when i tried to download it the website said the file was deleted.

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I'll do an update and re-load it.

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The .doc file is still there. The .pdf is gone, yes.

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