Hopefully we won't go back to someone asking for LR's to be WE's every 6 months or so as it used to be.

Making them WE's makes it very easy to do clipping assaults as they block each others LoS, harder to sustain fire for the same reason (very easy for opponent to see where the main line of fire is from the formation).For me this actually weakens the LR's instead of improves them in the roll there taken for.

Being able to transport other formations also means the LR's are more valuable and opens up situations (especially engages) that can spoil the balance of the game (rules wise).

It isn't as realistic as players usually think for transports to pick up units from other formations,plus it usually leads to special rules being added/needed to stop abuse/silliness of situations that can occur.

Thanks for the breath of sanity there. LRs are not WE, even though they might be slightly bigger than other AVs. The issue is rather that other models are too small (eg Ork Gun Fortress and Battle Fortress).

And also I was trying to resolve a question about the way that LRs are used - whether they should be a "formation" upgrade (as implied by the wording), or a "transport" upgrade (as per FAQ etc). As the vast majority of people seem to want it to remain as it is, I am locking the thread.

However, please can we change the wording of the 'Marines transport' special rule and the LR 'Upgrade' to make this a "transport" upgrade.