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The never-dying Razorback Question

 Post subject: The never-dying Razorback Question
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:10 am 
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Umm, - - - - strictly reading the three statements presented here, I am not sure that they work together at all:- There is no reference to Razorbacks or Landraiders in the transport rule, nor any mention of Rhinos in either of the others. Coming to this section for the first time, I do not think it is at all clear how you are expected to put together the three sections in relation to each other.

OK, so my confused person now turns to the FAQ and finds these two entries:-

6.3 Codex Astartes Army List
Q: The Razorback upgrade in the Space Marine army list states Replace any number of Rhinos with 1 or 2 Razorbacks each. If I take 3 Razorbacks how do I determine how many Rhinos I have left in the ?formation?

A: You?d take the minimum number of Rhinos to carry the units not being transported in Razorbacks. This might leave one Rhino with one spare space in it but that is okay as long as you don?t take Rhinos in excess of the transportation needs of the formation.

6.3.1
Q: Does the Land Raider upgrade available to the Devastator formation replace that formation?s Rhinos? And if so how do you add Razorbacks to the formation if they do?
A: A Devastator formation can be given up to four Land Raiders. However, including Land Raiders in this way will mean that the number of free Rhinos the formation will receive will be reduced to the minimum number needed to carry any Devastator stands that can?t fit inside the ?LRs. Then, once the number of Rhino?s needed for the ?formation is known, you may replace each remaining Rhino with 1-2 Razorbacks.
To summarise:
1. Add any LRs to the formation.
2. Add enough Rhinos to carry any Devastators that won?t fit into the LRs.
3. Convert any Rhinos to Razorbacks.
These seem pretty clear as an explation, even though the second one refers to "converting Rhinos".

So given the embargo on changing the three texts, could we consider combining and simplifying these two FAQ entries and just lay out the process?. Note, the wording of the FAQ is still dependant upon the unanswered question of whether the LR is considered to be "transport" or not.

Either way, set out the process as
? ? ? 1) Add any Razorback (and LR) upgrades to the formation
? ? ? 2) Then add sufficient Rhinos to transport the remaining troops (which may leave a Rhino with a spare space).
If you are prepared to consider LRs outside this calculation :-
? ? ? 3) Then add any LRs to the formation

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It is late over here and I am tired, so please forgive me if the above did not come over well.

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