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The black with red trim one seems nice, I like what Nicodemus has done with it. Just make the visor / air intake white again, the contrast looks better, though I doubt many would paint their epic minis to that level of detail.

Then again, insanity reigns on this board´s modelling sections...  


Coming to think of it, how would a predominantly black scheme look in 6mm? I like my black/red/brass CSM tanks, but with the infantry it comes down to black blobs with red dots as the dark base colour does not reveal much detail at a distance. (say 20cm+ )

I have taken a clue from the last Incoming and am planning to do my next army (Tau, most likely) in white/grey over a black undercoat.

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Hi Hena.

Had a thought. Happens sometimes. My Deathwatch Marines have a Thunderhawk variant called the Destructor (to complement the Thunderhawk Annihilator). This is an up-gunned Thunderhawk with reduced transport capacity. Now given that you have a very similar Thunderhawk variant, might I suggest that we get our heads together on this one?

So we have the standard Thawk (i.e. the rulebook variant) and the Thunderhawk Destructor. The Destructor is obviously modelled on the Forgeworld model.

Ergo:

Same stats as the regular Thunderhawk but:
Single Turbolaser rather than Battlecannon
Two lascannons (or one twin-linked lascannon)
Bombs or hellstrikes (I reckon just give this one bombs as it has plenty of AT)
Reduced transport capacity (6 stands)

I'd recommend for the Scions having the rulebook Thunderhawk and the Destructor variant. What say you?

One more thing - I'm completely with you on the stats for the Land Raider Crusader. However, wouldn't it be much clearer to have only one extra attack from the hurricane bolters and make the multimelta EA+1?

Same net effect, but it's much clearer that it has 3 attacks, one of which is MW, without needing the note...

Ah, but your list is self limiting. The only formation that would be able to use the Thunderhawk would be the bikes, right? Everything else MUST take transports, denying them the use of the thunderhawk anyway. However, the Thunderhawk WOULD be able to pick up space marine formations that had lost their transports. Which makes sense - even the Scions are going to air-evac if necessary, right? As for the bikes - how do the Scions get them planetside if they don't use Thunderhawks?

My point is that with all these sub-lists, there are expanding numbers of variant units, and we could do with keeping consistent. Basically, your SB thunderhawk corresponds almost to the SG version of the Thunderhawk. Your CAS corresponds almost-but-not-quite to the Forgeworld model.

What I'm suggesting is that we make three standard formats for the Thunderhawk. The "vanilla" Thunderhawk (i.e. the rulebook stats), the Annihilator pattern (as used by the BT) and the Destructor pattern (i.e. the Forgeworld model).

Also I'm highly not sure about attaching bombs to transport planes as they would make it quite dangerous to make a hard landing in hot LZ (which T'hawks make). Last thing you want in your craft when you come in is to have the bombs explode underneath you.

Okay, well, I'm not too fussed on what transport options your guys have if we can get together and agree on the weapon configurations. I'm just pointing out that there's no reason you can't give the Thunderhawks troop-carrying capacity for fear of breaking your theme - virtually no formations can use that transport capacity anyway (unless their transports are destroyed in battle!).

This I agree with. It would be good to be consistent with lists. Those variants are based on Forge Worlds fluff on how the Thunderhawks are used as attack crafts.

I had a chance to read the new Space Marine Codex ; The 'Aurora' Chapter are known as a Chapter that has 'as many predators and land raiders as three other (typical) chapters combined'...

...thought you might like to know that...

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Actually Hena thats a good reason to have transport - extraction for vehicle crews and accompanying infantry after they become combat ineffective!

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