And fed to a wolf.

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Now that i own the Codex here some suggestions and ideas:

Shouldn`t the Blood Claw detachment be bigger than the Grey Hunters one? Grey Hunter Squads are 5-10 Grey Hunters. Blood Claw Squads are 5-15 Blood Claws. Lonmg Fangs Squads are 2-6 Long Fangs.
As you see with seniority the squads memmbers are fewer and fewer.

The Jumppack upgrade should be called "Sky Claws".

And personally i would add a "Hero of the Wolf Guard" to the Hero upgrade for +25pts with Leader and Invulnerable Save. So the player isn't forced to spam his Grey Hunters with several Wolf Lords.

And perhabs you should theme the list to one of the styles of a particular Wolf Lord. Eg Ragnars Great Company is renown forusing droppod assault, Ironwolfs Great Company uses lots of tanks, Deathwolfs Great Company uses lots of Thunderwolfs and Fenrisian Wolfes, etc.

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Maybe, maybe not. After all Devs, Tac and Assault are all the same size and yet their detachment sizes are different. Also the vast bulk of the wolves is made up of grey hunters.

Isn't that covered by players army selection?

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Hi all sorry for the lack of updates real life ™ is making v 0.3 a more drawn out process than I'd hoped.

Based on the feedback:



Agreed, I like to think there's loads of them running around (I struggle to see how a 'normal' Chapter is viable)



The Blood Claws formation was formerl[/QUOTE]y bigger than the Grey Hunters, it will be again, the Long Fangs will remain upgrades (swap outs, at a price) for Grey Hunters



Yep, already changed that in the draft of 0.3



I've decided against this, I think that contrary to the 40k 'shiny new rules' the Wolf Guard squad leaders are not materially better than normal marine Veteran Sargants so I'd assume their effect is already covered in the formations.



The intention is to make a list that works best as a Drop-focussed army, with less convenient Thunderhawk loads than other marine lists (giving them a stylistic niche). I'm toying with two different 1/3 allowances (one being Titans and Navy, the other being more esoteric elements like Thunderwolves, Wulfen and Leman Russ Exterminators that they wouldn't really like other Imperial Allies to see them using).

You mean 'choose from this 1/3 restriction or this 1/3 restriction', not both?
Must say the one without warhounds and thunderbolts would have to be really good to be picked

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Not entirely true.
Assault Squads are Fast Attack choices (max of 3 squads per army)
Devastators are Heavy Support choices (max of 3 squads per army)
but Tactical Squads are Troops choices (max of 6 squads per army)
All have 5-10 men per squad.

Grey Hunters AND Bloodclaws are Troops choices (so max of 6 squads in any combination of these per army)
Long Fangs are Heavy Support choices (max of 3 squads per army)

SO Grey HUter Squads are as numerous than Blood Claws but Blood Claws Squads are bigger.

Conclusion: There are more individual Blood Claws in a Great Company than Grey Hunters.

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Come on BL, what's that got to do with it? It clearly states everywhere Grey Hunters are the bulk of a great companies troops. Just because the 40k force org allows me to take a mere 60 Grey Hunters doesn't mean that isn't so.

indeed going by the above you would rationalise the Space Wolf companies are smaller than the codex ones as they seem to top out at 8 squads as opposed to 11.

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Sky- amd Swift Claws are Fast Attack

And actually Ragnars Great Company is describet as having nearly 200 marines.

And yes Grey Hunters may be more but Blood Claws squads are just bigger (and die more often because of their temperament).
I think Space Wolves need a big pool of "youths" because a great deal of them will die relatively early.

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Yep, I'm thinking of two discrete 1/3 allowances (i.e. you can take from one or the other, but not both), the Thunderwolves in particular have descriptions that they are 'coveniently absent from other Imperial records', so I can't imagine parading themselves infront of a Titan which would probably somewhere have the 40k answer to CCTV onboard would be very smart. I'm thinking about it more from the point of view of fun games (believe it or not they exist, not everyone wants to be ultra competitive at all times).

Ah, but the lists are supposed to be balanced for tourny play, so they would have to be viable choices, otherwise they could just get put in an appendix?

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Whichever, but the background(to me) doesn't support some of the units fighting alongside the Imperial Navy and/or Titan Legions (and I think they're silly )

BL - Heavy Support is 3 choices per FOC, not 2.

Chainsaw-swords.
Hobbits with Sniper Rifles.
Ogres Ogryns.
Chapters of 1000 Marines conquering whole planets regularly.
Football Hooligans in Space Orks.
Space Elves Eldar.
Titans. Just Titans.


There's no point discriminating against Thunderwolves IMO, because 40k is basically composed of lots of silly things... I think Thunderwolves fit right in!

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It's a typo. I have corrected it.

Thunderwolfes are ok but their units are quite small ( only 1-5 Thunderwolfes per squad).

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I'm now waiting for Giant Bat Riders in Codex: Blood Angels.