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Marine Armoured variant list v0.1
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 Post subject: Marine Armoured variant list v0.1
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:42 pm 
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One question:  Where are the Marines?  *laugh*  There should be some Tactical Marines in there, either as a Detachment or an upgrade, I can't imagine Marines fighting... without Marines!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:52 pm 
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Does a Thunderhawk Bomber exist in the background? I can't think of any references offhand.


Why not have the normal Thunderhawk Gunship too?

Why no normal infantry? (I can't think of any chapter that isn't based on Tactical Squads of some sort at its core)
EDIT: Typo hey.    No Assault Marines though?


Why have Predators & Vindicators in 3's? (They're sold in fours and everyone out there is gonna have them in fours)

Interesting having attached Land Speeders!

No Imperial Navy or Titans?




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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:04 pm 
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(Hena @ Feb. 05 2007,17:57)
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The Bomber version of thunderhawk was just followed from IA2 (p.155 Saturation Bombing Mission).

Fair enough, IA2's the only one I don't have.

Did ya read the second page for the normal thunderhawk (and titans and assault marines) :D.


Was only skim-reading. :)

Why have Marauders if you have a Thunderhawk Bomber then. :)

And predators are in threes to limit the size of formations (3 preds, 4 devs, 4 razor, hunter = 12 units). I've tried to scale things that they would (hopefully) work. Don't really know.

I'd be tempted to stick with standard formation costings and sizes for as much as possible, get the structure of the list first, and then make specific changes.

I say that because I think if at all possible it's a good idea to stick to the formation sizes that are sold (Or multiplications/divisions thereof).

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:57 pm 
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Two suggestions, both related to AI (but hell I Like the game)

Swap battlecannon for scout titan turbolaser (small variant) Somewhat like 45cm 2x AP3+/AT5+
I always disliked battlecannon on spacecraft and makes more sense (and the model is already available :) )

Second one, replace The bombs with Hellstrikes in some sort (maybe the 4+ variant used by Thunderbolts). Marines are more of surgical troops, this could fit better than doing carpet bombings, but as it is a new approach to a marine list, I?m not sure to be honest.

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(Hena @ Feb. 05 2007,18:16)
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Should I be shocked :O :D.

Eh, I'll buy one soon. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:14 am 
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Ok... but why? Is it basically just so people can play with lots of marine tanks?

I do like the idea of big units of landraiders and predators though... I want them in a normal list - please? :D

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:31 am 
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(Hena @ Feb. 06 2007,07:18)
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You hit the head of the nail. This list allows armour heavy marine force.

The idea of balancing though allowing certain unit sizes is a very good thing. For this reason I don't try to push these into main list, but create a variant for it. From what I've read this was the idea for E:A lists in the first place. To allow variations through a variant list instead of making megalomanic list which is then easier to abuse.

All true  :)

Am interested to see it in action... (looks at massed ranks of landraiders... :D )

I have a fondness for the Epic40k idea where you basically just put whatever you wanted in a formation (within certain minimal restrictions), and supposed balance considerations be damned!  Made it hard for new players to know where to start though.

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