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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:40 pm 
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Oh, true. But the fluff text doesn't mention it either, and so I wonder if the mention there is intended to reflect 'reality' or just the webmaster's assessment of the rules.



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 Post subject: Re: Land Raider Proteus
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:31 am 
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Realized we left this off without official blessings
The debate was down to basically faster with smaller capacity vs standard speed + capacity.

Land Raider Proteus
Type: Armoured Vehicle Speed: 25cm
Armour: 4+ Close Combat: 6+ Firefight: 6+

Weapons:
2x Twin Lascannons 45cm AT4+

Notes:
Improved Comms, Reinforced Armour, Scout, Thick Rear Armour, Transport (may carry ??? of the following units: SM Tactical, Devestator & Scout units)

So 30 or 25cm folks? :)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:28 am 
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Dunno. 30cm makes some sense, and there's some basis, and it makes it less like the basic Land Raider or the Prometheus. Plus, it'll be in formations where the speed'll be helpful. I'd say 30cm.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:39 am 
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I seriously have to ask... Why bother?
I mean, why would you want to take an inferior tank to the current LR ? It's not like you can't use the old tanks as current LR models. Scout doesn't really make sense (you don't scout with a main battle tank) and even with the minimal effect of the commander rule change it's debatable that this is necessary.

Sorry, I'm just not convinced.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:12 am 
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Well, I admit I'd been going to/have used it in the Rogue Trader list since it's thematically appropriate as all get-out. But on top of that, I think it makes sense with Scout (and with Scout, it has a role).

MBTs are bad at scouting for a variety of reasons. This variant supposedly addresses several of those (in the fluff) - it's faster than the standard Land Raider and has excellent sensors and communications. I think it'd make a lot of sense as a command tank for a formation of Land Raiders, actually (both in-universe and out-of-universe).

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:13 am 
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So a Land Raider Detachment would consist of a Land Raider Proteus and three generic Land Raiders?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:43 am 
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The Land Raider is not really an MBT, either. It is more like a ridiculously over-armoured IFV (much like a Space Marine is a ridiculously over-armoured Infantryman).

I can see why a Space Marine would want to use "heavy" scouts, too, it fits their style, at least for some chapters.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:46 am 
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If you want to make this 'different' to the normal LR as some form of scout, I would go with 30cm but at the cost of lighter armour so 5+RA. If you feel this is too weak, add 'invulnerable', or even go for variable armour, 4+ / 5+

Agreed termies should be excluded, though I would keep the heavy bolter for point defence.


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