How are people fixing dry weathering pigments? I'm using Vallejo pigments, and have tried Vallejo pigment binder applied with a syringe. I draw of excess binder by touching it with a piece of paper towel. The darker colours seem to stay, but lighter colours almost completely disappear. I re-applied pigments to the model in question, trying to compensate for pigment loss by going heavier on the lighter pigments. This works to an extent, but it would be much more preferable if the pigments could be fixed exactly as they look after application!

I'm going to try a 'first fix' with spray on isopropyl so I can get a lighter application. Perhaps the paper towel is drawing the pigment off the model. I'll follow the isopropyl with pigment binder as I've read isopropyl fixed pigments are still susceptible to being worn off.

Any tips welcome!

Dunno why I even attempted this on a model - I bought the pigments for basing!

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Don't get tricky. Just dip your brush in the fixer (what are you using? Just rubbing alcohol?) and touch the model. Capillary action will do the rest.

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Unfortunately, you'll never be able to fix the pigments exactly as they look dry, it's just not physically possible (adding any sort of fixer changes the way the pigments sit).

I use a brush to apply fixer as jimmy described, using secret weapon's fixer (but reports are that all the major fixer products are pretty much identical). Practice a bit, and you'll get a sense for how they look pre and post fixing and be able to work from there.

yes that is true. there's going to be some loss after fixing so take that into consideration. I tend to hit it at 11 and then dial it back via the fixer.

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Yes, I guess experimentation and practice is the way forward. I think dry brushing / stippling with regular paints is possibly a better way to get some of the effects I’d hoped pigments would provide.




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I think you're giving up too quickly. It's just a new technique that you need to come to grips with.

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Not giving up squire, just re-evaluating which techniques / tools provide the results I have in my head

Currently experimenting with brushing on pigment binder and then applying pigments to the wet area. This gives a decent result, just not the 'dusty' look I originally wanted to achieve.

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yeah dusty look needs to be application then binding. The inverse you did is great for mud and wet effects however!

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I find myself in a similar situation. I had applied Tamyia weather effects (the ones that are a cross between pigments and a makeup kit for models) to my aeronef minis, and in attempting to seal them with rubbing alcohol I was insufficiently patient with capillary action (must've brushed the liquid around/applied pressure of some sort). The end result was that the tan color I used on the wooden decks ended up spread to grey areas, and vice versa.

I'm happy that the alcohol didn't change the matte finish, but I think one has to be ultra careful not to brush the pigments around.

I have the Secret Weapon fixer but haven't tried that yet. I'm now heavily invested in pigments and related stuff, so hoping to refine my techniques so that they actually work for both basing and application on models *fingers crossed*

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I have had some success with pigment binder now. If you brush it on the model and then apply pigment while the binder is wet, you can get different effects. Carefully taking almost all the pigment back off the model results in a very subtitle, close to dusty effect. The binder (Vallejo) takes hours to dry, so you can push pigments around until your heart’s content.

Just received some spray on rubbing alcohol, so will experiment with that too.



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