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Snowwhite's coffin or evolution of an army case

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:35 pm 
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I'm not sure that this is the right forum, but at least it concerns 6mm miniatures.
I've got nothing to sell - it's just meant as an inspiration and to show what you can do to waste your time , when not in the mood to paint - and of course to show off :)

When I cam back to Epic after many years, I needed an army case for my Lamenters.
I never used ordinary army cases and was never fond of using foam to protect the minis. I only ever used foam for some Lotow miniatures.
Usually I used a toolbox or CD Box and did a custom inlet.
This time I decided to do a completely new case.
What came out is this:
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There are 2 fixed compartments at the top. One very deep to hold Titans and other large models and one to hol gaming materials. Both have lids to keep dust out.
The little miniatures are stored in 3 drawers, which can't be removed.
Drawers and compartments have metal sheets (to give hold to magnets) covered with velour (for looks)for bottoms. The miniatures all have bases with magnets to prevent them sliding around and tumbling about.
The box can hold 8000 to 10000 points.

When I started on my Pretorians, I just filled the the free space, but it felt not right pressing the Praetorians between their Space Marine brethren and in the meantime space is running out also.

First I did some wooden boxes, this time using beech plywood instead of MDF. I just adore the looks of wood.
The boxes fit on top of the army case, but it's a bit makeshift.
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So I started thinking about a more permanent solution.
The whole thing should be easy to carry.
It should not take much storage space.
It would be nice to have just one "carrier" for all armies.
I store my miniatures in glass cabinets and it would be great to be able to put the armies from the carrying case into the cabinet without to much hassle.

So I decided to store the army in acrylic boxes. That would allow me to put them in the cabinet or on a shelf without any unpacking. Just put the box into the cabinet and Bingo.
I would make enough boxes to hold all my armies and than design a carrying case to hold the boxes.
The boxes look like this:
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But how to carry them comfortably ?
I decided to make the boxes part of the supporting structure, just like the motor in a formula 1 car.
The carrying case consists of only two side sheets with some "hangers".
The boxes have two little nooks on both sides where the hangers fit.
The boxes hang on the sheets, which have got an camera strap for a handle.
And this is (at the moment) my solution, for an army carrying and storage system.
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What would I change ?
The latches do not look to good and as they are not really needed - I'd remove them.
Probably do the same construction from plywood with a transparent top cover - Hmmmh, where is that leftover plywood ?

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Stephan


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nice work, you are a true craftsman! I wish I had access to the tools and materials you do (not to mention time!)

perhaps I'll post up a work thread of my DIY spincaster if I ever get it past the 'pile of bits' stage....

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how robust are the plastic ones? If I dropped one and it landed corner down would it survive or explode in a could of little men?

(becuase if they're strong, i might just copy this.)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:23 pm 
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madd0ct0r wrote:
how robust are the plastic ones? If I dropped one and it landed corner down would it survive or explode in a could of little men?

(becuase if they're strong, i might just copy this.)


This case is "tailored" to my needs. Which is taking the boxes from a cabinet, put them into the "rack" for transport, carry them to the car, to the table and back. They are not designed for transport on a bike or to be tossed around on travel. If that is your scenario, the foam approach is much better.

When you push the case from a table the magnets of most models will not be strong enough to hold the miniatures onto the metal sheet.
They could be designed for that - I'm not sure that it would be worth the effort.
I'd have to have stronger or more magnets. Using the bare sheets without "velour coating" would also help.

The plastic sheets are very unlikely to brake. Whether the sheets will come loose at the seems, depends on many circumstances like angle of impact, type of floor and so on.
One of those you have influence on is the glue.
I used Dichlormethan, because it is a joy to use and will dry transparently - even spilling some on the plastic is no real problem. Drawback is that some seems may give way. This could be improved by putting the top and bottom on top of the sides instead of inside. Dichlormethan allows you to repair the seems can be repaired very quickly and easily.
Note: Dichlormethan is hazardous and there is a list of precautions to follow when working with it.

Using Cyanoacrylate (superglue) will give stronger bonds, but is not as easy to apply.
Most superglues have a tendency to create some white deposition close to the seem. You can get rid of that with a super glue remover.

There are also special acrylic glas glues. You can use. The probability of breaking seems should be about the same as with the wood/pva combination.

If this is really a concern you could use screws instead or in addition to glue.

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Stephan


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Very nice work. Classy storage for a very well painted army.


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 Post subject: Re: Snowwhite's coffin or evolution of an army case
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brumbaer wrote:
madd0ct0r wrote:
how robust are the plastic ones? If I dropped one and it landed corner down would it survive or explode in a could of little men?

(becuase if they're strong, i might just copy this.)


This case is "tailored" to my needs. Which is taking the boxes from a cabinet, put them into the "rack" for transport, carry them to the car, to the table and back. They are not designed for transport on a bike or to be tossed around on travel. If that is your scenario, the foam approach is much better.

Regards
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I've seen 40k models on magnts in a metal toolbox - the guy used to put them on both sides of a metal sheet, so half were stored upside down!
Hmmm, my transport needs are a bit more robust - things get dropped around me, either onto the floor or onto each other. I still like the idea though.

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madd0ct0r wrote:
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I've seen 40k models on magnts in a metal toolbox - the guy used to put them on both sides of a metal sheet, so half were stored upside down!
Hmmm, my transport needs are a bit more robust - things get dropped around me, either onto the floor or onto each other. I still like the idea though.


Upside down is no problem - shock is. The magnets I use for infantry stands are only 3mm in diameter and 1 mm thick. The velour reduces the magnetic force so that the stands will cling on even upside down, but will come loose when some shock is applied.
My Warhammer miniatures have larger magnets and the movement trays also have magnets. Those pull the miniatures in place and keep them there. It's more likely that the miniatures break off the base than that the base comes off the movement tray.
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So you could make the system more shockproof if you wanted by using larger magnets in the bases, no velour coating and/or using magnets instead of metal sheet to "hold" the bases.

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